Football frictions strain Algeria-Egypt ties

2009-11-24

Fan violence and rumours from the crucial World Cup match in Sudan are causing diplomatic stress between Algeria and Egypt.

By Mouna Sadek for Magharebia in Algiers – 24/11/09

[Fayez Nureldine/AFP/Getty Images] Crowds on November 19th welcomed fans returning from Khartoum at Houari Boumediene International Airport in Algiers.

When Algeria beat Egypt in the World Cup tiebreaker last week, Fennecs fans cheered, Pharoahs fans wept, and accusations of violence by both sides flew. But as the post-match frenzy fades, many are eyeing the real stakes: the countries' once-strong bonds.

"Now that the fuss of the match itself is drawing to a close and the dust is settling on a real tragedy, it appears that the result of all this is the loss of all those who really believed in Arab unity and marched for a long time under the flags of fraternity and the Arab dream," Egypt's el-Wafd newspaper editorialised on Thursday (November 19th).

The diplomatic crisis that followed the Khartoum clash peaked on November 17th when Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak warned that Egypt would deal "resolutely" with anyone "attacking its nationals".

"The well-being of our citizens abroad is our responsibility; we will make sure that their rights are defended and will not accept any offences (...) being committed against them," Mubarak said during an address to Parliament.

Egypt summoned Algerian ambassador Abdelkader Hadjar on two separate occasions, and recalled Abdel Aziz Seif Nasr, its ambassador to Algiers, last Thursday. Algeria did likewise last Friday, in order to protest Egypt's alleged "media campaign" against Algeria, said the Algerian Foreign Ministry.

Mourad Medelci, the Algerian foreign affairs minister, instructed the Egyptian ambassador "to convey to the authorities in his country the Algerian authorities' astonishment and great concern at the escalation of the media campaign".

Algerian authorities set up a crisis management unit within the Ministry for Solidarity to repatriate any Algerian nationals who face intimidation in Egypt. Beyond that step, said government officials, Algeria does not want to react to "Egyptian provocation."

Tempers began to rise when Egyptian fans stoned the Algerian team's bus in Cairo. In retaliation, angry Algerians on November 15th ransacked the offices of mobile phone firm Djezzy Orascom, seen as a symbol of the Egyptian business presence in Algeria.

Tensions reached such a level that Egyptians living in Algeria – about a hundred, according to AFP – had to be repatriated on November 15th because of attacks. Egyptian officials are also complaining about aggression against Egyptian supporters in Sudan. However, Sudanese authorities have denied that serious acts of violence took place. In fact, on November 17th, Sudanese authorities complained to the Egyptian ambassador to Khartoum about a "campaign by the Egyptian press" to circulate exaggerated accounts of post-match fan violence.

Clashes have taken place between foreign football fans in Khartoum, said Khartoum police spokesman Abdel Majid Tayeb. However, he said, only four people were slightly injured. For their part, Egyptian authorities reported 21 Egyptians wounded, but Health Minister Hatem El Gabali characterised the injuries as minor.

The secretary general of the Arab League, Amr Moussa, speaking at the opening of the World Economic Forum session in Dubai on November 21st, asked both countries to keep calm. He called the frictions a simple "[F]itna (disagreement) causing uncontrollable levels of tension within two major countries".

According to Moussa, Sudanese, Algerian and Egyptian officials have held intensive talks to "contain this dangerous crisis, which must be resolved as soon as possible".

Moussa recalled the two countries' deep ties, adding that "the quality of the current cooperation must not be put at risk or affected by what has happened".

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Even some voices in the media, which many have accused of fanning the fires of violence, are now calling for calm.

The editors of the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram wrote that, while they were unable to "justify or excuse the deplorable behaviour of some Algerian supporters", these events "should not be blown out of proportion, since they were isolated incidents for which the entire Algerian nation shouldn't be blamed". The Egyptian publishers' union, with support from Egyptian intellectuals and writers, published a statement on Monday calling for an end to hostilities between the two "brother" countries.

For their part, large numbers of Algerians are still in the streets revelling in the World Cup glow. But many are expressing alarm at recent frictions.

"I think it's completely stupid to go to war over a game," said Nouredine, a security officer and hard-core Greens fan. "People on both sides have lost their sense."

This content was commissioned for Magharebia.com.
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Aksil Posted 2009-11-24

Signs of lacking maturity among Egyptians: Bad loosers, no fair-play. Signs of pride among algerians and a lesson to the Egyptians that says it all outloud: Don't mess with Algeria. After all, it's only a game. Time to move on!

mohamed Posted 2009-11-24

Long live Morocco and Algeria! The Egyptians don't like the people of the Maghreb at all. They say that we're not Arabs, but Berbers.

الغامدي Posted 2009-11-25

Every cloud has a silver lining. Maybe this event will wake Muslims and they will unite.

BMF Posted 2009-11-25

I just have a few words to sum up this situation: unbelievable, ridiculous, underdeveloped, deplorable, ignoble, shameful… When will there be an end to this childishness and this manipulation orchestrated by some of the bigwigs governing us? They make us and our people out to be the laughingstock of the world!!! Ridiculous! Unbelievable!... Alas…

samir Posted 2009-11-25

The real culprit of all of this is the Egyptian system, which found in sport an effective sedative to put its unfortunate people to sleep. They forgot that the in any game there is always a loser. What shocks me is their attitude towards the Amazighs, whom they treat like barbarians. I am Moroccan and I support Algeria when it plays against anyone. I think this is natural. The Egyptians are quite far from us, and not in terms of distance only. Bravo, Greens! Good luck in the cups!

KHALIL DJAZEIRI Posted 2009-11-25

Brother Algerians and Egyptians!- This is an appeal for calm and wisdom. Those who set off this disagreement via certain Egyptian media sources under the heading of a “known enemy” will never succeed in dividing us. I tell the Algerians that I have very faithful Egyptian friends. The love between us is mad! I will never trade them, not even for their weight in gold. And, I tell the Egyptians not to fall into our enemies’ traps! You are our brothers! This week, I invite all Egyptian nationals to dine with us in the city of Setif. This will be an unprecedented feast of Eid al-Adha! Do the same!

lalgerien Posted 2009-11-25

Salam alaikoum- Honestly, I did not expect the Egyptians to be so low! Even those who we thought were intellectuals and torchbearers for the whole nation have sunk to baseness. In a demonstration organised by well-known artists yesterday at the Pyramids, Mahmoud Yassine pronounced himself against the “barbaric” Algerians’ assaults on “honest”, “polite” and “civilised” people. He also said in strong voice, with monumental power and energy, that he will never forgive the Algerians for their “heinous crime” and offense against the “supreme race” that is the Egyptians! My God! I am outraged that my compatriots have committed something so irreparable such that this famous artist is shocked, revolted and disappointed with our “offense”!

Hatem Posted 2009-11-25

Come on now, what did you do in Annaba 2001, Algerians dont play fair and if we win their supporters must do something to intimade our players. please check out the facts before accusing us egyptians. Algerians, Tunisians and Moroccoans always play ruff and the evidence is all the yellow cards you people always get in mathces between us. Now the same happened in Sudan, 6 minutes after start they started to beat our team leader, whats that?? In Annaba Fifa should have stopped the game and ordered play off in neutral country... but no, they said we must keep on though the Algerians had beaten our team from arrival and stoned our teams bus so that it had no windows left... after that penalty we got in the game they threw filled waterbottles and the game stopped for 18 minutes... no one mentiones that at all??

nawel Posted 2009-11-25

1, 2, 3 viva Algeria! I die for my country and the sons of my country. I die for Bouteflika. Viva Algeria free and independent! The man who will stumble over it, humiliate us, our flag or our martyrs, hasn't yet been born. Algeria produced men. I die for you, my country, and die for Bouteflika. May God protect him for us. Long live Algeria, long live Bouteflika. Nawal from Bousmail, province of Tipaza.

dahmani Posted 2009-11-25

I think Egypt is getting too into this stupid fight, so as to turn this into a war, given that they started attacking the players.

محمد Posted 2009-11-25

What happened was caused by Zionists.

ibti Posted 2009-11-25

Pfff, what a level we have reached. We have become a joke. Look at Israelis and French, what they have achieved; where are Arabs? This is football. Its goal is entertainment. Where is the sporting spirit. Even if one of them qualifies, they won't take the Cup. They have all gone out to run. We are all Arabs, football is a game. The best wins.

abdla Posted 2009-11-25

I want the paper to stop the frictions between the Egyptian and Algerian countries and stop the Egyptian media. As an Algerian, I will give my opinion honestly: The Algerian people are irritable and won't stand for these words. This is my opinion, to head off the consequences of the Egyptian media campaign. The consequences will be severe for the Egyptian government and people. I am just letting everyone know. Finally, I address my thanks to the owners of the paper. I ask them to continue and wish them success in their media mission and say the truth even if it is subject to pressure. I also thank you for this corner dedicated to customers.

جليل Posted 2009-11-26

These Algerian Egyptian differences are fundamental to the Palestinian cause. Algeria totally refuses relations and normalisation with Israel. Meanwhile, Egypt calls on all Arab countries to recognise it and normalization with it under what Egypt calls peace. But Israel doesn't believe in peace. On the other hand, Algeria rejects any Egyptian initiative to normalize relations with Israel and recognise it. All its plans fail. For this reason, we find all these attacks against the Algeria of peace and the Algeria of Arabism.

محمد الصالح حمداوي Posted 2009-11-26

I don't want to comment on the matches or the violations which occurred before and after it. But I liked the mobilisation of the Algerian and Egyptian people when it is question of touching what they see as their principles. If Islamic states had good leadership, we would have been able to liberate Palestine in one hour, and this is the basis. May God curse everyone who wants to divide Muslims.

ايمان Posted 2009-11-26

Oh Egyptians, we are men; we don't accept the humiliation we endured. We'll show them who we are!

Hatem Posted 2009-11-26

Arab racism is astonishing and I as an african egyptian loves berbers... but those who say berbers are bad is all arabs. Long live all berbers and may they get free from all arabic states.

مؤمن محمود اعبيد Posted 2009-11-26

We ask the two peoples to keep calm and raise their morals more so that relations won't be worsened. We say congratulation to Algeria and hard luck to Egypt, next time.

mohamed Posted 2009-11-26

I am sad, very sad that a football game could overflow and cause political tensions between brothers. I understand the Egyptians’ disappointment after their elimination, but this overflow disgusts me. The Egyptian regime wants to use football to pass the pill of the enthronement of its hereditary prince Jamal. But why, then, did the media’s outburst not spare us our lives or deaths? By talking about barbarians, our Egyptians brothers have targeted the entire Maghreb, especially Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. The reality is that Egypt can't stand the emergence of another Arab country and considers all areas to be its protected hunting ground. Egypt cannot stand Doha because its channel, Al Jazeera, looming over its foreign policy. It cannot stand Dubai, because it attracts affluent tourists. It likewise cannot stand Syria and Jordan, where film production seriously threatens theirs. In the end, because of Algeria, which barred in its route to the World Cup, the “Mother of the World” has been reduced to a grandmother who, because she cannot act, simply nags everyone. Its people are given the names of all the birds. Its 1.5 million martyrs are treated like dogs. I do not know what these television directors see when they look in the mirror! Our Egyptian friends have a short memory. Who invaded Sudan and Libya? Who stoned the Algerians’ bus in Cairo? Egypt is knows to be a big movie producer, but this time its production of the bus affair was a failure. I told you it has become a grandmother. Rest in your corner and leave the others to work.

zemmouri Posted 2009-11-26

The Egyptians always want to be number one in the Arab world, but when the European teams beat them, it's no biggie. Personally, I tell them that they can't do anything against Algeria.

samir h Posted 2009-11-27

Here is a reminder to the about the entire fleet Algeria sent to Egypt, even though Egypt dares now to insult us: a squadron of MiG-21 planes on 9 October 1973, a squadron of Sukhoi planes on 10 October 1973, a squadron of MiG-17 planes on 11 October 1973, a mechanised brigade on 17 October 1973, a brigade of mechanised infantry on 23 October 1973. Egypt also asked for 150 tanks as reinforcements for its counterattack plan. There was no waiting on this request because the number requested arrived in Egypt along with the soldiers and various weapons. President Boumedienne, moreover, announced the cessation of all of Algeria’s development programmes and engaged all of Algeria’s forces in the battle. Finally, let us remember that President Boumedienne reacted to Kadhafi’s decision to stop the delivery of oil to Egypt, ordering four of our tankers to take up supply to the latter. All of this was nothing more than a small subset of the aid Algeria made a point to offer Egypt, not to mention the valiant Algerian martyrs who died in battle on Egypt’s land, which is now trying to denigrate and underestimate for a simple football match.

sarah .casa , Posted 2009-11-27

Hi everyone- I am a Moroccan. I have a lot of criticism for the Algerian state, but, on the other hand, I have never dared to insult the Algerian people and their great history, even in spite of my generation being born into a period of crisis between Algeria and Morocco. I have never dared to insult the Algerian people because we all know that they are a marvellous people. Their history is so great that, recently, after the Algeria-Egypt match, I have permitted myself to insult Egypt. I saw truly serious, racist things on the part of the Egyptians on their television channels. They did not stop insulting the Algerians and, in general, the people of the Maghreb, even calling us Moroccans born out of wedlock, retards, barbarians and so many other words that we do not dare say. I was even more shocked when I heard the Egyptian singers and writers and journalists and even politicians. Is this a matter of a football match or is this a sense of superiority over us people of the Maghreb? It hurts too much to hear it said that the Algerians and people of the Maghreb are barbarian Berbers. Well, I am Amazigh, Moroccan and Maghreb, and proud of it. I am ashamed that we have relations with the Egyptians. Honestly, I am ashamed that I am in the same league as them. Long live the united Maghreb!

LATRINKA Posted 2009-11-27

Enough already! Stop telling us that the Egyptians are our brothers. We do not believe this. Our children do not believe this. Maybe the brothers of our rulers do – who knows? Please, stop! Israel’s friends are our enemies to the last day.

mohand Posted 2009-11-27

This opportunity has brought pride to all the Algerians. I am proud of my country and my national football team. However, the Egyptians remain our enemies and they will all the way to the end of the world. They are not human beings; they are wild beasts. We should cut all ties with them across the board. Algeria will always remain standing. Happy Eid, Algeria and, more particularly, Kabylie. Long live Algeria!

Ilyes Posted 2009-11-27

Hatem is talking about 2001 in Annaba. To this degree, we should talk about 1989 in Cairo, when Egypt used all the unsportsmanlike means possible to qualify. Even the goal they scored was made when our goalie suffered an assault. In any case, you are known for your bad faith and hypocrisy, which is added to your cowardice and whining. We learned with great joy that your artists and, moreover, all of your lowlifes are going to boycott Algeria. What a relief! What a joy to no longer be subjected to the stupidity of all these…

خليل Posted 2009-11-28

Long live Algeria.... dogs bark and the caravan goes to South Africa... Khalil from Lakliaa, province of Tipaza.

احمد Posted 2009-11-28

There is no life in those you are calling to.

المدن احمد Posted 2009-11-28

We thank you for what you have presented to us; God bless you.

SARAH SCORPION Posted 2009-11-29

I hate the Egyptians because they are sick. They talk too much.

احمد الزبربر Posted 2009-11-29

I say: Happy Eid to the entire Arab nation. I hope that relations will return to what they were.

ahmed maroc Posted 2009-11-29

Honestly, it is Egypt that began it all, and the first side that begins is the oppressor.

Le travailleur Posted 2009-11-29

Work is the health and pride of a people. All their children can take care of themselves, get an education and live as they owe it to themselves to live. I note that there are still countries where football is like a drug, where it is a frustration, where it makes its higher-level intellectuals talk nonsense. Egypt defended the Arab cause in the past, but, through people like Nasser, it has changed a lot. Now that mentalities are developing, the Egyptian politicians are frustrated by their own lamentable incompetence in diplomacy and economics and reject this fact by throwing their hatred on a brother people who have repeatedly supported them. Do you remember in 1963 and 1973, that those whom you now treat like barbarians thought to face the Israelis, whom you were mishandling on all fronts? Gentlemen Egyptians, you have short memories. Give up this drug you call “football” and reason will come back to you. Personally, as a Muslim and Maghreb person, I am proud to be a descendant of the Berbers and the Arabs. I thank God for this.

nordine algerie Posted 2009-11-29

I, too, am very surprised by the strength of the words and insults uttered against our living and dead by a few Egyptian media outlets. I am sure the latter only represent themselves. Our brother Egyptians, whom we know so well and with whom I have personally shared salt and bread, are pure and saintly. I do not want to and I must not confuse them with the groups who are supplying disunity and hatred. Egypt and Algeria are and will remain two brother countries, God willing.

marocbledi Posted 2009-11-30

Long live Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia! You cannot test the united Maghreb! Bye-bye, Pharaohs!

اسماء Posted 2009-12-01

Happy Eid to all Muslims. Concerning frictions between Algeria and Egypt, I think the Jews succeeded in stirring the fire of strife and casting it on the two countries so that everyone will be trapped in its fire. The most important thing is that Algeria qualified and it will represent Arabs in the best way, God willing. We trust our team. Our slogan is: "We're with you, Greens, you'll do something great!"

Neddowson Posted 2009-12-01

There is only one conclusion to be drawn: We must reinforce the ties between the countries of the Maghreb by reactivating the United Arab Maghreb and seeing that we have one single country. This will be the Great Arab Maghreb, the same one that built a great civilisation in Andalusia, a civilisation built on belief in God alone, in Allah, and not believe in magic, disbelief and the slavery of Jews, the true builders of the Pyramids. Indeed, are we not Arabs like the Egyptians pretend to be? Long live the Berbers! Long live Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Libya and Mauritania! Long live the Grand Maghreb!

ESPOIR Posted 2009-12-01

This is too much, too too much! Algeria is a big country and does not deserve this hatred over a football match. There must certainly be something else that we need to look for in Egypt’s internal politics and in their economy. Algeria does not need Egypt or its investments in Algeria. When I say “Get out!”, I also mean out of the Maghreb and the Arab world. Our next priorities should be the building of the Grand Maghreb and the unity of the Arab League without Egypt. Our leaders should no longer be quiet, because this benefits the Egyptian politicians and not their people. As for Egypt, may it go check out the Israeli side. Maybe it will find its happiness. Long live Algeria! Long live the Maghreb! Long live the Arab world!

عربية مسلمة Posted 2009-12-02

Long live Islam, first and foremost!

Giséle Maugont _Paris(France) Posted 2009-12-02

Wherever Algerians go, they mess things up, be it in Egypt or in France or anywhere in the world. They break things, burn things, kill and so on. We are not going to press charges because, if we did, then…

انتوا مين ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ Posted 2009-12-03

Unfortunately, we are the civilisation - but who are you? We are Nasser; who are you? We are Zouil, who are you? We are Naguib Mahfouz, who are you? We are Al Azhar and tribunes, who are you? We are Egypt, who are you? We have liberated your country from the coloniser, who are you? We are Nasser in '73, who are you? We are the heart of the Arab nation; who are you? Yes, dogs bark and the caravan keeps going with 80 million, the people of Egypt; who are you? We are the Arabic language, Taha Hussein, Oum Kelthoum, who are you? I just want to know: Who are you?

توفيق من الجزائر Posted 2009-12-03

Salam alikum. Concerning the topic, I think that Egypt was wrong and made many mistakes. Why do I say this? Because it has confronted the bus with stones. Egyptians should have just apologised and we would have accepted the apology. There are fanatical fans in all parts of the world. We understand this. But Egypt said that what happened was done by Algerians. It beggars belief that the Algerian national squad, in which all players are in top famous European teams, sold and bought at millions, would beat themselves and make a play. Is this credible? I am asking everyone. Please reply. Even Egypt would have found a solution to this problem. Thank you Magharebia. Salam alikum.

djazairi hor Posted 2009-12-04

Once again the masks have fallen. I am Algerian and I owe respect to all cultures and peoples of the world. I have no intention of spitting my venom on the Egyptian people like their media, artists, lawyers and officials did on us and our history. They treated us like barbarians, but we are Berbers, Amazighs and free men. They dared to strike at our symbols, the martyrs! Not even the dead are spared. What is the cause for this? It was a defeat in a football match that was played in a neutral country: Sudan, the neighbour of Egypt. (That is to their advantage.) One team could win, one and only one. Algeria was the one to win. What could be more normal? The Egyptians wanted to win this match.

mohamed algerie Posted 2009-12-04

Giséle Maugont thinks that the Algerians are troublemakers wherever they go. I do not deny that some young people sometimes express themselves with violence – I concede that – but, just like all the young people the world over, this excess of energy is not unique to the Algerians. If you are talking about matches between Algeria and Egypt, you are in a bad position to be offering a judgment because you are far from reality. There was violence against the Algerian players in Cairo upon their arrival, just as Canal+ witnessed. Their bus had rocks thrown at it in the middle of Cairo and our fans were humiliated when walking into the stadium in Cairo. Miss Maugont, I strongly doubt that you are French, given your text ridden with more mistakes than words. In the future, try to mind your spelling and the content of your messages.

Amr-Dubai Posted 2009-12-05

Guys, yes it is ridiculous and fanatics are everywhere. Football association officials dealt with the matter in a very silly way. I don't want to get into arguments about who started it, i have been following up newspapers on both sides for a month before the game of November. I believe all Egyptians did not accept the fact that a public and government owned newspaper would strike such articles or headlines. The funny characters and humuliating Egyptian players and the coach in addition to the stating that "Algeria will marry Egypt on the 14th of November" is no joke. I am a football fan and i believe that every nation has it's good and bad but the assault came all the way from the media when Egyptian media started with no offense or assault by the way until the chaos in Sudan took place. I have friends who were there and have been attacked. The matter should be resolved delicately from the officials in both countries and the matter will fade altogether.

fety algerien à paris Posted 2009-12-05

Reading this article, I told myself that Algeria is the guilty party!!! Wake up! Egypt is the one who started this. My cousins in Sudan did not do anything. Otherwise, show me the proof! I dare you! If the Egyptians demand reconciliation, I say, “No! No!” The damage has been done and our brothers and sisters have suffered on this land of so-called true Arabs. Long live Oran, Algeria and the Maghreb!

ابراهم Posted 2009-12-06

Thank you, Fennecs! A fan of Algeria from Morocco.

Amr Dubai Posted 2009-12-08

Just to reply to Mohamed Algerie i don't think you are correct all the way, Yes two rocks were thrown at the bus actually it hit the body and of you see the footage of Canal+ you will notice this and it wasn't in the middle of Cairo it was 2 minutes aways fom the Hotel which is at most 5 minutes aways from the airport. I don't intend to sound judgemental but you were not at the match, Algerian fans were not even touched outside the stadium at all - that is going in and out of it, although these 3000 attending did provoke 80K Egyptian supporters in the stadium and sitting behind TV screens at home and i am sure you have seen it on TV. After the game at night a fight picked up in one of the neighbourhoods between a group of 20 guys and was contained by the police, actually the police have been protecting the team and supporters as much as possible given they stopped provoking the people over there. If this tension is to end, it can only happen once air is cleared and obivous mistakes such as burning flags, swearing and cursing another nation on national news papers and TV which we know we all shared blood at times of war. I am sure we have our share of the blame which we say it out loud, but look at the amplification of matters, it certainly wasn't at the Egyptian front at all. Nevertheless, we need to approach matters in a different way.

nouha Posted 2009-12-09

To the brother who says who we are. We are Algerians, Moroccans and Tunisians. This means we are civilisation, which means manhood. The young man is not the one who boasts of his ancestors but rather boasts of his acts. You are talking about Nasser and so on. You're not talking about Hosni, may he not be blessed, the friend of Israel. Why don't you talk about Rube, Fifi Abdou, Amr Diab, Yousra, Ilham Chahine and others who are known? Why don't you talk about the closing of the Rafah crossing, and about the 5,000 Egyptian women who were offered as gifts to Americans? And there's more. But I don't want to say more. Study the history of Algeria from the past. History alone will show you who's the biggest, little one.

إبراهيم #العربي الجزائري المسلم# Posted 2009-12-09

Peace be upon my people in Algeria the land of martyrs, Morocco of castles, Tunisia the green, Libya Al Fateh, Mauritania the chivalrous, Sudan the House of Loqman the wise, Syria the sun and civilization, Lebanon the white, Palestine the free Arab, Jordan Al Hashemite, Iraq the Moujahid, Saudi Arabia the Holy Land, Emirates the land of miracles, Kuwait the challenge, Qatar the pearl of the Gulf, Bahrain the pearl of the sea, Sultanate of Sultans, Somalia of resistance, Djibouti the proud, Comoros Islands the paradise of Earth, Yemen of Arabism and Egypt of the Pharaohs. No matter what happens, we are one. One religion, one country, one fate, in language and on top of all this, one Lord. There is no other God but Allah; Mohamed is the messenger of God. Long live Arabs until the Day of Judgment. Your brother Seddik, Biskra, Tolga Sehira

إبراهيم #العربي الجزائري المسلم# Posted 2009-12-09

To the one who insulted the martyrs: Tell me about the heroes of your revolution, when was it, when was your independence and your National Day? You will find that the martyrs of Algeria, Syria and Iraq are more numerous than your martyrs. I will just tell you: “One word can drown its author seventy years in hell”.

زوارة ليبيا الحبيبة Posted 2009-12-10

Enough blowing the topic Egyptians out of proportion. You've shamed Arabs on the [TV] channels; you're ignorant.

SOFTLY03 Posted 2009-12-11

The truth is that we Algerians were insulted and called all sorts of names by the Egyptians. It does not seem that this campaign was inappropriate – quite the opposite, since, as I see it, it unmasked what our blue-collar workers have defended with all their strength for more than a half century. History needs to be corrected, and I think that a milestone has been laid. We are not Arabs, and this is a truth that our trash politicos do not want to admit. Even the Arabs do not consider us as such. The Maghreb is not and cannot be Arab; it is Amazigh. However, this does not call into question at all our loyalty to our being Muslim. Personally, I am an Algerian, Amazigh and Muslim, and I am proud to belong to the region that is the Maghreb as well as Amazigh. I will now return to those who govern us and who want at all costs to lock us into an entity in which we do not recognise ourselves. Why has there been no official response directly in Algeria? I think that there has not been one for the simple reason that, since the dawn of time, they have taken Egypt as their model. They cannot say anything because they risk compromising themselves and sending flying off a bunch of splinter theories about being Pan-Arab. They risk throwing a stone in a pool of water. Any reaction on their part would lead them to undermine Pan-Arabism, and that risks carrying them away. You cannot lie to the people all of the time. So, there you have it: this is what made me happy about this tempest in a teacup. The insults really hurt, but I was expecting it, because this is what happens every time a country from the Maghreb meets with Egypt, especially Algeria.

ALGERIEN Posted 2009-12-13

To all those who consider themselves educated and dare to speak of brotherhood between two Muslim peoples- Listen, my compatriots, I am a practicing Muslim and faithful to my religion, but no one in the world can convince me that these dirty dogs could have respect for true Algerians, be we Arab or Berber. Yes, we are Algerians and united and nothing at all can separate us. As for the insults that affected me so, the worst was their saying that our glorious martyrs are a pair of shoes. Worse yet, our leaders somehow closed their ears to all these insults against our martyrs. Our martyrs do not concern them, given they are in power. To all the Algerians who are proud of their nation, do not use the word “brother” with the word “Egyptian”. Boycott all products coming from Egypt, particularly those from cabaret artists, which is to say: brothels. We are invited there every summer. Algerian men and women have been repaid $16 billion by Mr Chakib. There you have it: this is what our leaders do. In the end, do not be quick to forget when, in a few months, everything gets back into order. Of course, all Algerians are called upon to peacefully protest for the end of diplomatic relations with these dogs. Long live Algeria! Long live the Amazighs, Arabs, Mozabites, Touaregs, Chaouis, Chlouhs! To Hell with all those who want to remain brothers with these dogs! It is clear that they did not lose one of their loved ones during the war for independence.

منى-ليبيا Posted 2009-12-15

Unfortunately, the real image of Egyptians has been revealed. We are shocked at what [is said] on Egyptian channels against our Algerian brothers. They say they are civilised people, but where is that civilisation? Enough arrogance! Go back to your minds; this is just a game in which there is a loser and a winner. Accept losing with good sportsmanship, without diverting attention from the game and talking about things we didn't hear about on any other channel except yours. Your behaviour is making all Arabs hate you. Wake up!

نونو من الجزائر Posted 2009-12-16

Salam alikum. Blessed Eid to the Islamic Umma. We are an Arab country. I want to say that we are Berbers, and we showed who Berbers are to the Pharaohs, who said that our martyrs were thugs. You are just dancers, and backward. One, two, three viva Algeria!

algérie Posted 2009-12-26

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