chouf Posted 2008-05-01

Certainly, Mr. Belkhadem was being politically correct and polite by accepting Morocco’s invitation to celebrate this pointless summit in Tangier, which is a summit in name only, but he should have at least sent a delegate from the FLN Party—that is: a nobody from the FLN, Algeria, its institution and so on. This was a good demonstration on the part of Morocco’s leaders, reinforcing the Algerian people’s solidarity with the Sahrawi people. But, the highlight of the reunion was that after they begged us to open the border. That was the real highlight. You have to be a Moroccan to do something like that. One remark: you only need to look at El Yazghi, the most corrupt in the kingdom, and his backward thinking politicians in the kingdom. This has nothing to do with the Sahara, it is just theatrics for their national assembly. When you see what they are doing on their side, you understand everything. They insulted their guests, their neighbours, telling them to move. Neighbour Moroccans, by force of the way thing are: you move!!! But, sooner or later, the Sahara will be independent. France and the pitiful help and advice it offered is leaving a trail of slime behind it for your neighbours. Morality!? France just sees its own interests, whish is blocking a union and fraternity in the region. It set it up this way. Have you asked the question about stability and peace in this part of the Maghreb, about it human and resource potentials? We have Algeria, the Western Sahara, Morocco and Mauritania, not to mention the Tunisians and Libyans. The Europeans and the French in particular who will become our illegal immigrants. A word to the wise! Thank you, Magharebia, but no censorship, please. Duty! Respect! Freedom of Expression!

Anonymous Posted 2008-05-01

I would say that there will not be a Grand Maghreb. Building a Grand Maghreb in the spirit of Tangiers 1958 is impractical for reasons I cannot fully develop here. The leaders of the Maghreb who met in Tangiers in 1958 had confidence in themselves and a certain will. The Tangiers’ appeal, which still represents the hope and aspirations of the people of North Africa, was unfortunately transformed by force of consequence into theatrics led by professional scriptwriters. They came from the five corners of North Africa to commemorate the first summit in Tangiers in 1958 with media sound bites. This was just let other continental unions know that the 1989 Marrakesh Union of the Arab Maghreb is still alive, but it did so while blocking its resuscitation, since one of the two — Algeria - putt sticks in the spokes of its revival! In the words of Belkhadem, "may history tell us who was responsible for this deadlock.” If the regular agenda requires informal meetings, then we have an example of this in Tangiers in 2008, where everybody concerned holds a meeting and states their message, the content which is drawn up at the headquarters of the protesting parties of the major states, the PI and FLN. The result is failure right from the start, given that tensions still persist between Morocco and Algeria because of the problem of the Sahara. Going to Tangiers was done as a courtesy. Is what we saw and heard a press that was paid-off to be partisan and comment on the success of the meeting? Yes indeed, if we believe the academic wording of Mr. Samir Chihabi, “The meeting of the national leaders around a table has re-launched a dialogue for the Union of the Maghreb and we have taken a step forward.” Every “meeting” brings up obstacles that surpass those of Algeria’s and Morocco’s differences. Chihab-15

Ego Posted 2008-05-02

In any case, the people of the Maghreb have the political systems they deserve. Their shared culture, shared history, shared Arabic language, almost shared French language, shared religion, shared technological backwardness and so on. This commonality seems to make no provision to this utopian union. May God spare the European community from my poor view of the Maghreb.

Redaction Posted 2008-05-03

Chihab-25; Why do you copy and paste? You should respect author’s rights.

عبدالرزاق المراكشي Posted 2008-05-05

What can I say, Mr President, servant of the generals, aren’t you a Muslim who performs his prayers and fasts? Didn't you hear the saying of the messenger of God? Gabriel was advising me about the neighbour. Your neighbour is extending his hand to you, and you are still bearing deep hatred to those who were good to you. Honestly, it was us who were mistaken when we were negligent when Mohamed V, who was good-intentioned, was mistaken by telling France which were ready to negotiate with him the outlining of borders that this is a matter which concerned us together with our Algerian neighbours, we wouldn’t rest or be tranquil before they were liberated, at the time all the Algerian militants were in Oujda including the late President Boumediene, the betrayed Boudiaf, poor Ben Bella and others. Didn't Chadhli prefer living in Morocco and doesn't he still? Haven’t the free Algerians preferred living peacefully in Morocco better than the country of generals? Hassan II also made a mistake when he ordered the valiant general Driss Benomar to return immediately after he was in the Eastern Sahara and Tlemcen. Why didn’t he solve the problem at that time? We would have been relieved of you and we would have taken our rights with our hands, cowards. Mohamed V was wrong when he delayed negotiations with the Spaniards over the Sahara in Aix-les-Bains thinking that the matter was that easy and believing the neighbours would help him when he would claim it. But it was the neighbours who messed up everything to satisfy their spiteful whims. They exploited the anger of the young men in the South of Morocco and turned them into mercenaries with whom they bargain with their Moroccan masters. All this for many reasons including: reprisal for the defeat in the war if sand. As a reminder, Algerians, with a military assistance from Egypt and Libya were the attackers and Moroccans responded to the attack, and what happened had happened. Algeria wants a safe passage to the Atlantic, were Morocco to deny them such a request had they made it with good intentions. We are one people, one nation, we have one religion and one language we will move freely between each other without any borders or obstacles between the different five countries of the Arab Maghreb as do our European masters who aren’t Muslims, they move with an identity card, without borders or customs officers; they use their resources together and those with them are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves, aren’t these the orders of the tolerant Islam, oh you who forgot God and He made you forget yourselves… Conclusion: Mohamed VI wants peace and good neighbourhood. The least that can be done in the settlement of the issue of the Sahara is self-determination. If Hassan were still here he wouldn’t have accepted it. Why don’t you seize this historical opportunity and accept this approach which is the lowest compromise that can be made by Moroccans because they made such a compromise so that we remain brothers and so that peace and joy prevails for everyone, and everyone goes back to reason and Sahraoui people return to their country, God has pardoned what is gone by; or shall we wait for the death of Bouteflika, El Ammari, Nizar and Belkhadem to solve this problem. Salam.

chihab-25 Posted 2008-05-05

To “Redaction”: I do not know what you are talking about with this “copying and pasting”!? And what “author’s rights” are you alluding to? Redaction is trying to turn make my remarks seem futile, and I cannot allow this, especially without paying attention to the remarks she is suffering upon us. Personally, I go to great pains to write my comments and I do not do so to win your blessings! I do so to animate Magharebia’s discussion forum, to which I feel attached. Even if it is just a gesture of humiliation on your part, I still consider you remark unwelcome because I do not copy and paste. I only apply this term to poor student. Those who want to draw my attention need to work on their grammar in order not to also humiliate the language of Molière. What can be said? Even in light of this great Maghrebi media website, we Arabic-speakers copy the words and are unable to even construct a good sentence. For example: you write “the author’s rights must respect,” with respect in the infinitive, instead of correctly writing “the author’s rights must BE respected.” The websites directed by the heirs of Molière correct the comments bearing grammatical and orthographic faults in advance in order to further develop the author’s linguistic knowledge and prompt and encourage an ever-increasing audience. On the other hand, is Magharebia’s editor content with just throwing any old superficial text out there without making much effort in this sense? I will stop here. If my present comment, as it is, does not have the chance because of ill will to be both submitted to the website’s administrator and to be published according to the law of the press hand posted under the ‘right to respond’ to the Redaction, then the terms “copy and paste” simply mean stealing the rights of others. Thank you, Chihab-25

ghninou Posted 2008-05-05

Sabrina is made of rage because she is a Polisario. We must try to understand her, the poor girl. But, the Algerians have nothing to do with her. She is seeing her pipedream of the SADR collapse. She pretends to be an Algerian and, at times, a German in order to sow hatred. It's hopeless, my poor girl. The Algerians and Moroccans insult each other behind their computer screens, but they are always together when they go to Mecca or abroad. All you have to do is take a look at football games—when they are not playing against each other, of course—there are always two flags. So, trash, go air your dirty laundry far from us- as far as possible. Good riddance! Oof!

الأزور الجزائري Posted 2008-05-07

“And hold fast by the covenant of Allah all together and be not disunited”. Be all brothers, dedicate your debates to argue with governments. We must be a united people to defend our rights. I mean the Moroccan and Algerian governments which should be our opponents and not that we be enemies scorned by nations. We are brothers and don’t follow the words of the radicals amongst us. Salam.

PROUST2 Posted 2008-05-14

Shoo! Get out! Go on, shoo! Get out you nutcase!

مغربي Posted 2008-05-24

Salam alikoum. Morocco is equal to Algeria and Algeria is equal to Morocco. Only dust can interfere between the nail and the flesh.