New wage structure provokes labour debate in Algeria
2007-10-17
A group of twelve independent trade unions has lodged a formal complaint against Algeria's new national wage structure which was prepared jointly with the General Union of Algerian Workers. The independent unions have promised a general strike if the government does not consider their demands.
Lyes Aflou and Said Jameh in Algiers contributed to this report – 17/10/07
 [File] Critics of Abdelmadjid Sidi Said, Secretary-General of the UGTA, say the union is too close to the government. |
Algeria's National Council for Teachers in Higher Education (CNES) announced on Tuesday (October 16th) it will begin a three-day strike on October 20th if the government does not make changes to its new national wage structure.
A group of twelve independent trade unions, including the CNES, has expressed its concerns over the new wage structure, which was prepared in co-operation with the General Union of Algerian Workers (UGTA) and made public on September 15th. In a letter to the government, the independent trade unions described the new pay scale as falling short of their expectations.
The independent trade unions seek to distance themselves from the UGTA, which they believe is too close to the government. The CNES is joined in its campaign by the SNCP (Union of Permanent Researchers), the SNPDSM (Professors and Doctors in Medical Sciences), the SNMAM (Junior Lecturers in Medical Science), the UNPEF (Education and Training Personnel), the SNAPEST (Teachers in Secondary and Technical Education), the SNPSP (Public Health Practitioners), the SNAPSY (Algerian National Union of Psychologists), the SNV (Veterinary Surgeons), the SNPSSP (Specialist Practitioners) and the SNAPAP (Public Administration Personnel).
According to CNES co-ordinator Abdelmalek Rahmani, the independent unions have demanded the new structure be either scrapped or modified to incorporate union requests.
"The philosophy behind the wage structure rests on the reduction of salary premiums in favour of base pay, which must be higher," said Rahmani, adding that premiums included in the new structure are limited to 35%, whereas the independent unions have asked for 70 to 80% above minimum wage.
The letter from the independent unions also proposes opening a "social dialogue" and building a "real partnership" between the government and labour unions. Rahmani told Magharebia the labour coalition should be treated as a partner in the government's decision making process. "The UGTA does not represent all labourers, since it discharged members who joined independent unions," he said.
The group of independent unions, which have considered forming a confederation, have threatened collective strike action if their grievances are not heeded by the government.
"Thanks to this sleight of hand, otherwise known as a wage structure, which is supposed to recognise knowledge and skills, the country’s development is being largely compromised. Hope has been dashed," said SNAPEST Secretary-General Meziane Mériane.
Djamel Kharchi, Director of Public Services in the government, told Le Quotidien d’Oran on October 11th that the government's new wage structure "has been organised according to levels of qualification, ranked in 17 categories and 7 general subdivisions which correspond to high-level positions, such as higher education and scientific research personnel, university hospitals and specialist practitioners. The structure also contains categories and subdivisions to cover promotion grades linked to career progression."
Kharchi added that the plan includes three separate salary structures, the first aimed at public servants with 480 possible grades listed; the second, intermediate structure concerning higher level public servants; and the third devoted to top-level public officials.
According to Kharchi, the new wage structure, underpinned by the new status of public servants, offers workers an average pay increase of 20 to 25%. There are 1.5 million employees in Algeria's public services.
Official figures estimate the general pay rise will cost the country 130 billion dinars, or 17.5% of the overall amount paid to public servants, which currently stands at 750 billion dinars.
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bels Posted 2007-10-26
When will the salary of medical residents be increased in Algeria? While they earn 15,000 dinars, their Tunisian and Moroccan counterparts earn 27,000 and 40,000 respectively. Look even at Palestinian residents- when will this misery end?
bouzella Posted 2007-11-01
I am a resident doctor and president of Committee of Resident Doctors at C.H.U. at S.B.A.. We need a salary increase; we are living on the base salary for specialists in the medical sciences. I await your favourable response. Please, accept my sincerest respects.
فريد Posted 2007-11-16
Hahaha
bels Posted 2007-11-19
I know others have posed the question, but why does the elite of a country such as Algeria think of nothing but emigrating. It is just to have the decent and dignified life an intellectual. But, so that the nation may find its path to development, knowledge needs to stay in its place. Knowledge is a sort of religion.
yasmin Posted 2007-12-06
I am a general practitioner and I think that our salary is a pittance. Even now, after 18 years of services, I still do not own my own housing. How do you explain this situation?
KHAFJI/hassi el abd Posted 2007-12-13
Mr Bouzzala, you want to become politician, French, and you can't write. You have first to learn French, then do something else. Go back Sir to Hassi El Abd Mr Bouzzela. Ha ha ha Bouzel head of the committee of resident doctors. masobt madir
messar Ouanas Posted 2007-12-14
I am looking for Algeria’s pay grid for public health employees in 2007 – 2008.
bels Posted 2007-12-16
This is the fault of the generals. The power in place is forcing the people to do anything they can. The mafia leaders are making a fortune off of oil while Algerian citizens do not have anything to celebrate Eid with, let alone live their everyday lives. It is a shame that it is always the citizens who suffer the consequences. May God be with the families of the victims.
noel Posted 2007-12-23
The misfortune of specialised doctors is affecting those domains where the need of the population is growing. The administrators are making our lives difficult. No employee housing, specialist union doctors make the law and the hospital is just an annex of their cabinet. And all this is in spite of the number of specialists that the ministries have deemed sufficient. They are young, fresh and motivated and they are breaking us down. So, why are the specialists fleeing from the outer regions?... The promises and guarantees given by the Minister of Health during the national restructuring of the specialist’s positions in the civil services are simply inventions and lies.
serrar Posted 2007-12-25
Salam, Hello, Good Evening and Hi, All I want to say is that there is no festival like the festival of Ahidous.
bil Posted 2007-12-31
When will researcher’s salaries be raised?
bels Posted 2008-01-01
I think that the only voice our people have can be found on the streets. We need a popular uprising. Otherwise, nothing will change in this rich country. Moreover, even though this country is yet rich, nothing will ever change for us, the neglected people.
Anonymous Posted 2008-01-09
There's no country or people.
امال Posted 2008-01-11
Why don't teachers present a statement of their requests to be studied by the ministry? Then they can decide on wages which won't be far from the presented request and at the same time won't disturb the budget of the state in order to avoid immigration of qualified resources, and so that university teachers will not persist in his suffering, because this makes him think more of living conditions instead of scientific research and teaching and learn everything new for the progress of the country. I hope that this request will be taken into consideration.
nul n' Posted 2008-01-13
“No one is above the law”. Well I am the “no one”. Nevertheless, it is easier to die for Algeria than it is to live for it.
فافا Posted 2008-01-15
Where's the right of common cycles in all this?
عبد الكريم Posted 2008-01-16
Salam alaikoum. Please, where are the bylaws of the education workers? We’re in 2008 and not 1800, have mercy on this servant, don’t exploit his naivety. Release the bylaws, where’s the interest of the nation, where’s the right of the public servant? Which pay rise are you talking about? Whatever the conditions, a salary of 30000.00 Algerian dinars or over is not enough to cover the needs of a family of four. Go to the working class, ask them, they’re in ruin.
عمر Posted 2008-01-17
I'm looking for the Algerian pay schedule for the employees of the public health for the year 2007-2008.
mahmoud Posted 2008-01-20
A salary of 30000.00 Algerian dinars and over isn't enough.
cheherazed Posted 2008-01-22
Prior to actually putting the wage grid into force such that it has not yet affected us, an increase in prices is noticeable as is a fall from our top performance. It is all just the same thing over again.
abdelkader Posted 2008-01-26
I am an engineer. Until 2007 my salary was 12,261 dinar a year; now it is 17,650. I have a child and a spouse, and, after six years of work, I still have no residence. This is truly living in misery.
google Posted 2008-01-26
Salaam. The state of law is consuming the sweat of the public service worker. The budget of the state is in the hands of the parliamentarian and the minister. I want to know the salary of....Is the president of the municipality a public servant or...
KAMEL Posted 2008-02-02
I have to ask myself why the “people” of the UGTA are always meddling with the lives of Algerian workers when they know that they are neither the majority of nor legally representative of the “miserable” population. And, I say “miserable” because it is these very vampires that made them what they are. Algeria is a democratic country, but what the UGTA is doing has nothing to do with democracy; they want to represent us in spite of ourselves. This is a shame and petty. They negotiated the salaries with the government right in front of the worker’s noses. Go to Hell! You only represent your own interests you sons of… Pardon me, I am feeling a bit nauseous.
MED Posted 2008-02-04
If you haven’t understood yet that the UGTA is just a manipulative branch of the government, then you have not understood a thing.
الهادي Posted 2008-02-04
Why are health workers ignored by the government, both in terms of wages, housing and other benefits, although it is an honourable profession?
karima Posted 2008-02-05
I am a civil servant with eleven years experience as a typist. I have an associate’s degree as a typist and 18 months in internship. My question is: what category will I fall into in the new wage structure?
sihem Posted 2008-02-05
Medical interns are not consolidated enough to get things going on their own; we do not even know our rights! We work like slaves in the worst conditions there are for a miserable wages. And, having a degree in this country does not mean a thing! You can judge for yourself: you have a BAC and then in addition to that “x” number of years of study. So, what is that supposed to mean?
Anonymous Posted 2008-02-08
I think that the only voice of our people can be found in the streets. We need a public popular uprising. Otherwise nothing will change in this wealthy country. Moreover, and even if this country is rich, nothing will change for us, the neglected people. Therefore, we refuse the candidacy of Bouteflika for a second mandate, enough.
joe Posted 2008-02-08
Please, I would like to know if there will be raises or not. I am a resident doctor and I want to get married, but, earning just 15,000 dirhams, I cannot!!! It isn't normal for a young man such as myself, age 26, to have only medicine in his life.
salam Posted 2008-02-09
Hi, Who can answer the famous question: “What is our president trying to say?” Before talking about salaries, we need to know what we are a part of!!! Furthermore, how can a person who does not even believe in himself ask others to believe in him!!!??? As for increasing our salaries, if this doesn't happen for the residents like it does for everyone else, then it is the end of any dignity in being a human in Algeria. You might as well not bother waiting.
موظف من الأسلاك المشتركة Posted 2008-02-10
A call to this category which is considered the backbone of the state, the category of common cycles working in the sector of education for the marginalization and humiliation they endure. Most of this category has a secondary education level or more. How can the pedagogic assistant be ranked in the eighth grade instead of the seventh and he just has the third year of the secondary education level which is a condition to be recruited in this cycle? Therefore, we address you this call to take into consideration this category of the department of public administration and reconsider the approved categorization…Thank you.
محمد 2008 Posted 2008-02-10
In order to improve teachers' performance, the minister of national education of the Algerian state should know that teachers' wages should be 45,000 Algerian dinars or, and not waste money on training to keep a good image abroad.
ldlp Posted 2008-02-14
With regards to the Algerian union strikes, all of us medical interns at C.H.U. in Sidi Bel Abbess support it. We are well aware that the salary of medical interns depends on the base salary of specialists, which is forever stuck in negotiations. We need a new statute for medical interns. Thank you
sabah Posted 2008-02-18
Hello, I am a general practitioner with 18 years experience. I have a monthly salary of 37,000 with three kids without housing. It is unfortunate: we don't have rights to professional housing, social or co-operative housing. What is the solution?
mina Posted 2008-02-20
This is really unfortunate. We are young and we do want to participate in the development of our dear country, but the state is not giving us any initiative. That the paramedics striked—and for good cause—and got nothing from it is proof. If this continues, I am going to leave at the first opportunity I get.
hantout hamid Posted 2008-02-23
When are we really going to start focusing on pensions for retirees, especially the pensions of retirees who retired at age 50 and still have children in school? Some proportional pensions are just sugar water for families, and in some cases this really effects our human dignity. Another problem that should be brought up is about the people who have served the nation for two years and do not have this calculated into their pension. This is a blatant form of injustice that must be fixed.
hantout hamid Posted 2008-02-23
The UGTA has always sold out to the government except when Benhamouda— God rest his soul— was alive. The current union heads are above all else opportunists who do nothing but get rich off the backs of workers. Everybody knows what they have done with private enterprise and without a care for Algerian workers. The unemployment rate of the latter never stops rising. The people of the UGTA are outside the law; just take a look at what they did with the laws related to union plurality. They are really afraid of free unions. Personally, I was a martyr to this union. I spent seven years fighting against a godless and lawless mafia, but it turns out the union heads were behind this abomination: I had to denounce their acolytes in an embezzlement trial and this gave them an opportunity they were eagerly waiting for: to expel me from the union. One last important thing: the union is afraid of other unions for the simple reason that it was started by SONATRACH. And, if you know it is from SONATRACH, then we also know that it is a fat cat.
Brandt Posted 2008-02-23
Dear Sirs, You are dreaming of a wage increase. Alas, you have forgotten about gross revenue taxes (IRG): the lowering of the IRG for the lowest wages as announced by the government will offset be offset by this new wage augmentation. In other words, now, once your salary exceeds the 15,000-dirham range, your IRG rate will increase such that the former lowering of the IRG will in the end be ineffectual.
attef Posted 2008-02-24
I’m a social assistant; I work in the sector of the directorate of social work depending on the ministry of social solidarity. I would like to know which category I belong to under the new wage structure, and when the operation of adjustment of status will be done for the bylaws of social assistants in the sector of the ministry of social solidarity.
valet Posted 2008-02-25
A manservant has deserves more respect than a government worker (for example, Sidrohaa Said), because, whereas the former’s money comes from his own sweat, the latter’s sum comes from treachery perpetrated against the workers. Permit me, my dear workers, to nominate Sidrohaa Said as the most pitiful from here on out. A word to the wise!
ميمو Posted 2008-02-25
The agent of civil protection is dying.
AEK Posted 2008-02-26
Above all else, do not let the UGTA manage our affairs! Avoid having it get involved in any negotiations with independent unions!
مساعدي التربية بالشلف Posted 2008-02-27
After the sit-in conducted by the educational assistants brothers in the Wilaya of Chelf on Monday February 25th, 2008 a provincial office was opened to coordinate educational assistants and organize this category which was marginalized for so long and deprived of most of its rights. The office is made up of 13 members. This category calls for the same request as the national coordination body for educational assistants and to reintegrate them in the class 10 and the category of main educational assistant in 11, and offer them an opportunity to qualify to the class of educational consultant.
Anonymous Posted 2008-03-04
I am a teaching graduate and I work in primary. I don’t care about work as much as I care about my degree with which I work for specialization. As to the salary, it isn’t sufficient.
bouharoun Posted 2008-03-05
What a shame, these doctors who call themselves specialists and directors, and who butcher French. I am sure that even on the medical plan, anyway God is powerful, medicine is not made for everyone.
ahmed Posted 2008-03-05
Publish the wages and the increases thereof intended for our statesmen and functionaries and you will know the reason that brought about the revision of the pay scale. Take, for example, one of the state administration’s executive directors, he will see a raise of 30,000 per month: twice that of the salary of another officer! What a charade! Are you not shocked!? Yet, this is what we call justice here!
mohand Posted 2008-03-06
Dear Colleague Medical Residents, I discovered with some consternation that your salary is 15,000 dinars. During my last year as a resident, in 1999, my salary was 13,500 dinars. I thought that things had since changed. Apparently, though, nothing has come of this because, if inflation is taken into account, wages are even lower today.
Farid Posted 2008-03-06
In Response to Ahmed: Open your eyes; this is not only happening in Algeria! Even in France there are people who do not even make 1000 euros a month, while other make 50,000 euros. Moreover, the number of all products has increased. People here also do not manage to make ends meet; this is not a paradise! If you are just a simple public official, you cannot compare to the director of a central administration. In any case, be logical.
ملك Posted 2008-03-09
Why all this noise about this rise which the citizen doesn’t even have time to take advantage of before they take it again from him in different ways. The evidence is gas hikes and electricity bills which will be announced by the head of the government. How can they feel what we endure while they live in comfort? Let’s say, God suffices us and He is the best protector against you and your bad attitude towards us. Better to sleep oppressed than not to sleep as the oppressor.
KAMEL Posted 2008-03-10
Hello, I want to know why the Medical License is permitted for *nurses* and anesthesiologists? Why aren’t chiropractors, pharmacists and kinesiologists also paramedics? They did not do their three years of study. Can you convince us, the other paramedic specialists, why? Thank you
abdelkrim Posted 2008-03-11
Hello, I think that the basic problem is to stop the wage structure not only for public officials, but also for all Algerian workers as well as retirees. This structure should be based according to the standard of living in order to enable each of us to live with dignity without having to resort to borrowing for our monthly bills. I am thinking especially of those people whose families are dependent on them. I sincerely believe that almost all workers are living in poverty while a barrel of oil goes for $108. As for me, I worked for 30 years and took my anticipated forced early retirement at age 50 because our *company* was going to disappear and we had already spent several months without pay. You can imagine the situation, especially given my salary was my only resource and I had a family dependant on me. I tell you I lived through hell. Today I am retired. I contract out my work, but I still cannot make ends meet. This is not normal. I am certain that the worker is having himself stolen away, or else how does one explain this situation. In the end, to put it briefly, our leaders only think about themselves. They enjoy it when they see people in poverty. This is the sad reality. Bye
heefdls Posted 2008-03-11
First of all, Hi everyone! To put it honestly, this situation is super-sh**ty. It burns us up. We are about to crack! The national services do not fix this, a repartition is not suitable and leaving to go abroad is not possible! What can we do; we do not have any cash on hand!? I think we share the same opinion, isn’t that so?
CORLEONE Posted 2008-03-14
A student gets 20 euros for three months and you talk about quality of education!? Whatever!!! Have you seen the state of our dormitories or what a student gets to eat? Please, stop it!!!
lam Posted 2008-03-18
Hello Everyone, I am addressing myself most especially to the medical residents in all parts of the country. I am a medical resident at University Hospital Centre (CHU) in Constantine. I am making this call-out to all the medical residents who are aware of what we have been suffering through for many years now. It is time to organise ourselves on the local level first of all and then we can join hand to efficiently act together. At our level, we are going to renew our office for medical residents before the end of March. We have organised a sit-in on this day to demand the application of what is in the statutes for medical residents and we intend to do more. We lack co-ordination with our counterparts in other wilayas. That is why I am making this call-out to all the organisations for medical residents to unite and decide what steps to take.
يوسف Posted 2008-03-18
The main losers in the new wage structure are graduate teachers. University degrees are worthless in Algeria. You will remain poor whether you study or not. What future can a country that insults knowledge and scientists and praises the ignorant have? There is no will and no power but from God. When will things change?
حائر Posted 2008-03-21
I am lost amidst the sufferings and cries of people who have honourable jobs. Where is our duty towards our religion and beliefs? Where is the duty of knowledge and raising its flag? Why don’t we make the flag of knowledge our slogan and make it sublime, and claim a wage and living to transmit the message of knowledge to our sons? Why don't we have the means available to gain knowledge from the circle of balance and interests? May the knowledge and bounties of God be upon you. You cannot be compared to any of the treasures of the world. Let’s be proud and aspire to a decent life as Algerians to build our nation and make our sons proud of us as our fathers and grandfathers made us proud of them.
ali Posted 2008-03-22
I took my retirement on 31 December 2007 at the age of 60. My colleagues who are still working benefited from a pay raise of 10,000 dinars. My pension is currently 27,000 after a 40-year career. (Labour Minister) Louh will not be going to Paradise.
anti Posted 2008-03-24
I want to return to my country no matter what. Ten thousand doctors, often of Maghrebi origin, are working in French hospitals. Underpaid and insecure, they do not enjoy the respect they deserve and sometimes they feel that they are only good for plugging holes. If some of them—be they brilliant or lucky—managed to get tenure despite all the pitfalls of competition, then the other 10,500 remain to this day constrained to the underling status contracted associates. For them, the struggle continues. In the beginning of the 1980s, many students, Algerians coming in first here, wanted to remain in France according given their specialisation. Some medical practitioners educated in Eastern Europe joined them too after the fall of the Iron Curtain. In theory, a doctor who does not have a French or European diploma does not have the right to practice without the approval of the Bar, but, in practice, there are a thousand ways to get around this. Lacking hired hands, the hospitals have begun to resort to massive subcontracting, including that of foreigners. “Contracted associates” are the freelancers of the medical world. With a maximum of 11 weekly shifts, each of them is paid 44 euros per shift. They can be dismissed at will, they have no salaries and they are not entitled to paid leave. These night shift Stakhanovites, whom the French are becoming more and more reluctant to insure—barely receive 195 euros total for their services compared to the 237 their colleagues receive.* “The use of contract associates is at the very limits of legality,” lamented Karine Piganeau, a journalist at “Le Quotidien du médicin”. Inasmuch as the Bar still does not allow them to practice in France, they are not necessarily covered in the case of proven medical malpractice.
kamel Posted 2008-03-25
Kamal, Batna. By God I am from a revolutionary family and practice politics in the beloved Algeria. I inform you that Algeria is presently governed by the Mafia people and those with black feet, like my brother Larbi Belkhir I ask a question. Is Khalida Toumi the minister of culture in the country of a million and half a million martyrs? As a revolutionary family, I think that Bouteflika and Atiq… are equal to the level and the degree held by Mrs the minister Khalida Toumi who speaks too much. Degrees are worth nothing.
iftene abdeslam Posted 2008-03-26
I am a doctor, but I regret being so here in Algeria. I should have been a trafficker in order to live better. I have five children, four of whom are in school, and no housing or car after 18 years of practice. We have to borrow money to finish the month out. It is miserable.
amar Posted 2008-03-27
I have been a retiree of the national education system for three months now. Boukerzaz spoke about the raise equally applying to retiree, but ever since it has been white noise. Sidi Saïd, the pathetic, wants to raise the regular retirement age to 60 while the regular teachers are demanding retirement after 25 years of work.
AKBAL Posted 2008-04-02
Algerian wages are weak.
أحد أصحاب الشهادات الجزائرية Posted 2008-04-05
How much do ministers earn? And their chief Essaid? Parliament members? All the sons of Algeria? The generals senior and non senior officers? On the other hand, university degrees are worthless, because there is no value for science to the sons of Harki (traitor). It is illiterate people who govern Algeria. Algeria needs a revolution to reform conditions, and restore Algeria to the Algerians, non traitors. I call on the learned and intellectual people to go on a wide strike and even disobedience in order to reform conditions. Teachers should have priority in reforming social conditions before any other category, including ministers, directors of ministries and generals of coffee and sugar.
ala Posted 2008-04-06
Misery of doctors caused by the government. Why such a difference between us, Morocco and Tunisia? Why are people migrating?
Desespoir Posted 2008-04-07
There are some dinosaurs who are swiping the Algerian people’s money. We are desperate. What can we do? If nothing, then leave the country are all costs!
anti Posted 2008-04-07
It is because an Algerian doctor is never really a doctor. The status is very different from that of other countries. An Algerian doctor is equal to a Moroccan or even Tunisian nurse. Algerian hospitals are dirty and have incompetent doctors.
سمير المسيلة Posted 2008-04-07
Algeria, the rulers and officials of Algeria are a gang who have a flag with a star and crescent.
علي ولد مبروك الساسي Posted 2008-04-10
In reality i work with my husband in a social fund but we are confused, how can we buy a house while our monthly salary is 60 thousand Algerian dinars and the house is evaluated at a billion or more. So how is it possible to live on this salary, pay the rent, electricity, water and save money to buy a house, how?? Tell me how people!
hadjilemeteque Posted 2008-04-12
Now, a retired headmaster is going to drop down to an educational assistant’s pension. You can draw your own conclusions.
nadjia Posted 2008-04-12
Where we are headed there is misery. I think that the biggest mistake I ever made was to become a doctor. You know that as such, holding an Algerian degree in medicine, you only have the right to work as a nurse here in France. And, that is only if you have French citizenship, otherwise, you have no status.
أحمد Posted 2008-04-12
A pedagogical assistant. I want to understand all the functions of a pedagogical assistant without deduction. Why, because some directors abuse their rights and abuse the assistant in his right to missions. So I want from anyone who reads this statements, I need a clarification please. In addition to this, is the real scale of the assistant 7 or 8, and is everyone happy with it? This is not justice. And how is the scale of the primary education teacher not like that of the educational assistant whatever the level itself? Who will grant us justice please? I want a reply from anyone who wants to make things clear to me. Thanks to all.
haddia Posted 2008-04-13
I have been a dentist for seven years. I was always ranked first in my studies. I received my baccalaureate with honours. I was ranked 13 the same as our neighbouring director at the CEM, who did not even go to high school. And, now a degree does not even matter in your ranking. It is unfortunate that we cannot even see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore in our country.
walid le degoute Posted 2008-04-14
Hey Sidrouhou Said from UGTA, You are hated by all the workers and retirees. If you want to test the audience, you have to go no farther than the striking workers. You’ll see. No one is behind you!
le pessimiste Posted 2008-04-14
I agree with “hadjilemeteque”. I was a headmaster and I retired on 31 December 2005. Right now I get 25 thousand dinars a month. I should also note that since 1970. Three years later, I get the same amount as a supervisor without a degree, whom I fired from the lycée. This is Djamel Kharchi’s logic. And, who could believe he is still in charge of public service.
le pessimiste Posted 2008-04-18
The retirees intend to voice their problems on 19 April by sending their petitions to Louh. Do they not know that there are none more deaf than those who do not want to listen? Berlurconi is going to tackle the retirees’ case first off. He is right in doing so. May Bouteflika do the same for us. He just saved the officials.
مختار Posted 2008-04-20
The country didn’t implement the law and didn’t grant teaching graduates their rights, despite knowing that he does his duties in the best way. Therefore, I ask you to re-classify graduate teachers.
amirak Posted 2008-04-22
Hello, I would like to know how much inspectors in Algeria’s telephone relay stations earn with 25 years of experience. I hope that the wage structure for officials will change as soon as it possibly can, because it is complete misery earning only 25,000 dinars a month. We cannot even provide for our daily needs.
CHRIF Posted 2008-04-23
You still have not understood that this idiot Sidi Said is part of the FLN and, as a result, the government. We need to exclude him from all negotiations!
yacine Posted 2008-04-26
Education? We are waiting for our degrees to have some value in the new wage structure. I am a certified professor and paid the same as someone with just a 'licence'.
le pessimiste Posted 2008-04-28
Today, an increase was announced for French retirees. When is there going to be an increase for the mistreated Algerians, Mr. Louh?
le pessimiste Posted 2008-05-09
The oil takes off and the Algerian situation deteriorated more and more. The abused poor have only to watch as the train passes by. The rising cost of living does not concern “them”; “they” are protected. But, the poor have no means to put pressure on the government.
الحماية المدنية Posted 2008-05-09
We are suffering in the subsidiary of the union of the main unity for the civil protection in Oum El Bouaki. Does the union want us to immigrate or what? It doesn’t even grant us a contract of general association of rescue, Sidi Said or…
medecin algerien de 2008 Posted 2008-05-09
Why are prison doctors paid less than hospital doctors? A new recruit at a hospital is paid more than a prison doctor, yet they work in a risky environment. Simple agents are paid more than doctors. What do you want? That a hospital didn't want doctors? Other people can use them.
le pessimiste Posted 2008-05-18
Under the initiative of the Ministry of National Solidarity, the retired Algerians of France made a visit to Algeria. This initiative would have been commendable if the poor, mistreated Algerians were treated in the same way. This is a marketing strategy with no future. Those who deserve the state’s attention and who are in poverty are the retirees of Algeria. Do not even say that under different skies, well-deserved charity starts up by itself.
Omar Posted 2008-05-22
Omar Algeria, I would like to know what the pay is for a substitute teacher in a vocational training institute. Thank you
le pessimiste Posted 2008-05-26
I am responding to Omar. It is based on your degree. In the institutes, one hour of overtime can earn you almost 800 dinars.
bachiro Posted 2008-05-27
I have been working as a professional worker in one of the institutes of the professional solidarity sector for seven years as a temporary worker. What is our fate and are we going to remain in that condition, or will there be a decision to stop us forever?
ام سارة Posted 2008-06-01
I haven’t yet understood on what basis the alleged increases were adopted. Are diplomas being taken into consideration? Technical assistants in laboratories with a DEUA were listed as grade 7 and received a bonus of only 2,500 Algerian dinars + Bouteflika's bonus of 700 Algerian dinars as an increase to the salary which makes 3200 Algerian dinars in all. Is this a considerable increase?
genta Posted 2008-07-25
We the graduates of the paramedical training school in Jelfa ask you to consider our suffering in the school as a result of the bad management of the dictator director Salami and his opponent Taib Kliti the director of studies to the point that we didn’t get our graduation certificates. This is the cause of the pending problems between them. How can we work and achieve good results?
l a Posted 2008-09-24
Why don't security agents working in hydraulics get a new salary? Given that Bouteflika is paying 3200 dirhams for the month of September, I am making 10920.
lina Posted 2008-10-02
Hello, I would like more information on the on the License-Master-Doctorate (LMD) programme for natural and life sciences (SNV). Does this university programme offer any job opportunities? –Thank you
مريم Posted 2008-10-13
I hope that controlling sectors will reconsider medical workers because they are the most prejudiced category.
MOSBAHI Posted 2008-10-18
Mr Bouteflika must give priority to the interest of the Algerian people.
touil Posted 2008-11-05
What is the new salary scale for teachers with three years of education? What is their appropriate degree? –Thank you
OTMANI Posted 2008-11-11
If we take the case of French retirees, we find that anything is possible, but, as for our case, we have got less than nothing. And why this internet?
بلال Posted 2008-12-03
What is the fate of contractual workers who work five hours even if we work 8 hours and our salary is barely 9000.00 Algerian dinars?
yacine Posted 2008-12-17
Who ever said slavery has been abolished in Algeria? Temporary workers working public administration are real slaves. They are paid for a 25-hour week when they work 40 hours or even more. There is no overtime, no rest on holidays and no vacation. I know security guards who have not had a vacation in seven years. The colonial administration did not even show such a performance. The only thing left to do is to replace the words “temporary worker” with “slave” Why do they submit to these? It is because there is unemployment. When were you enslaved- was it when your mothers gave birth?
زاهية Posted 2009-03-23
Yassine, I agree with you in what you said because I am a temporary worker in civil protection. The last thing I heard is that I don’t have the right to sit for the exam which will be held soon. This is unfair or how do you consider it???
alia Posted 2009-03-26
Healthcare and education are our first and foremost cares in order to have a secure, stable society.
محمد من وهران الجزائر Posted 2009-03-31
First of all, peace and mercy of God be upon you. I start my words and say to live and adore my country Algeria in good and bad times; when it makes me happy, when it makes me sad, when it hurts me; when I laugh and when I cry. No, no I don’t deny this. But love is an issue of seriousness, work, perseverance, devotion and perfection in work. This is a culture known by those who know it and ignored by those who have no concern for their country, run after material things and pleasures. They loved Europe and forgot their mother which embraced them until they grew into young men. But the mother soon lost her some of her sons for their love of Europe. They took the sea and after the lover reaches his beautiful, great sweetheart wearing a nice-looking dress, exciting the viewer. He tells her hi, but she says away. He flirts with her and she reprimands him. He loves her, but her hatred to him increases. But he is surprised after she was courting him. The problem is that she has a lover whom she loves. She has not worn her nice dress for you. Sorry Sir, love was from one side. Unfortunately, I personally prefer love to be mutual between the two sides even if it is from an unattractive sweetheart; the important thing is that she loves me, not betray me and I love her. You know who is she? It is Algeria. You must love her with her beauty and defects, joy and sorrow. This is the state of the lover; not divorce her, and desire a beautiful sweetheart “Europe” which doesn’t show you any interest no matter what you do. You must acknowledge the truth. Europe is dressing up for its sons not for other. It is sure that you are rejected. So review yourself, return to your darling, make up for her for the years of loss with hard work. I address the simple worker to carry out his work perfectly, the doctor, engineer, farmer, cleaner, reporter, security and student. We are all concerned. Let’s put hand in hand, lift our country, restore its glory. It is just a matter of years. 3 years only if we are serious. Let’s just imitate the Chinese individual in his devotion to work. Let’s stop playing and restlessness in order to restore the glory of our nation. In this way, our living and wages will improve. Algeria today is better than any other time. No one would deny this only if he ignore the situation of Algeria ten years ago. Certainly we are not the best country; we haven’t yet reached the summit in order to praise ourselves. We’re not like the states of the European Union or some Gulf states; it is just a matter of time. The wolf can eat nothing with the lion.
adda Posted 2009-05-30
I would like the pay scale for state nurses in 2008. I have four children and I am in the seventh rank of the IDE.
صبرينة Posted 2009-05-31
Where is the right of the educational assistant?
محمد Posted 2009-06-28
Peace, mercy and blessings of God be upon you. We want to know salary grids of professional workers op3. This category which is highly oppressed in view of the purchasing power in the national level. In my opinion, there should be an increase in the basic salary of the worker because when he will retire, he will be on the edge of the abyss as his salary will be no more than 5400 Algerian dinars. So where is the increase in your opinion? Odd!
Abdellah Posted 2009-06-28
To Mr "Mohamed from Oran"- When it comes to the love of one's country, I like to distinguish between the country and its leaders. We hate our rotten government, which is trying to harm the people. Personally, I do not like this and I will not accept living in a country where there is no justice. I admit that I do not even make what would amount to a pitiful salary after years of study. I will not accept staying in an office and doing nothing. An engineer in Algeria, for example, does not get the salary he deserves, does not get the position he deserves and does not get the status he deserves. I will not accept living a pitiful life when other idiots are playing around with the oil money. We would sacrifice ourselves for a country that at least respects us. We love countries governed by wise men and not by monkeys! We love countries like Japan, which values the people and expects them to do something. We feel like our country does not need us. What can a computer engineer do in an APC office or in a wilaya or ministry? Does 23 thousand dinars and a trip of 90 kilometres from your home permit you to work and develop your skills? No. I spend all of my time thinking about when I will marry, when I will buy a house, when... , when... , when... If you think about it, this is all impossible without taking out bank loans, something that is a major sin in our religion.
fazi Posted 2009-08-12
I have been a high school teacher since 1993. I hold a senior position. I am married. But, there you have it: I have neither a home of my own, nor a car, nor anything else. My pay just manages my expenses every month, and I cannot save anything. Moreover, there are expenses for the school year: pens, notebooks, papers and so on. How am I supposed to make it on these crumbs? In the end, I would like to say that these new graduates to not even stand up to the ankle of the old ones, and yet they get the favourite treatment. Should we forget our marvellous teachers, who made us presidents, ministers, leaders and doctors out of us? If so, then we have truly proven to be ungrateful.
علي دفعة2009 Posted 2009-08-15
What is the classification of elementary education inspectors from the elementary or secondary education? What is the classification of inspector of education?
منير Posted 2009-10-06
What is the fate of 160 workers who have contracts with the national company for measuring and control AMC in El Alma, province of Setif, in view of the significant negligence, abuse and humiliation endured by this category of workers including women and men but mainly women? Therefore, we solicit someone who can help. By God, it is injustice except for those who were spared by God. We hope there will be independent control and inspection. I hope they will visit us in this national institute just by name national. But in reality, it is totally different. Believe me if I tell you that I have been working in this institute for over 10 years. But I have no rights in this company, no promotions and nothing. One more thing, we work four months a year but in the rest of the year it is cursed unemployment. I share my job with five people in one year. Is this the rational policy or manipulation of the fate of young people? Will four or 6 months be enough for the father of a family of 7 members? How? I tell you it is real injustice especially from officials. They treat us as if we belong to another world or from another country, from Somalia for example. What can I tell you? If I hadn’t have any children, I would have taken the sea like other reckless young people, not reckless, harragas…I hope from God that you understand my words. I want help. God grants success.
العربى Posted 2009-10-15
I am a lab technician agent. I want a review of my category from 10 1 to 05 1. Honestly this is unjust. Thank you.
abbas Posted 2009-10-17
Reading some of these comments, I see the condition of our Algerian functionaries. They are living in poverty because our weak revenue is comprised of the poor. The definition of poverty is: “the condition in which is found a human being who is deprived of a sustainable, lasting way to acquire the resources, means, safety and power and make the choices necessary to enjoy a sufficient quality of life and his/her civil, cultural, economic and social rights.” –Declaration adopted by the Commission for Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, adopted 4 May 2001. (E/C.12/2001/10, paragraph 8.) –To be continued…
gappe Posted 2009-10-17
In Response to “Mohamed from Oran”- I see that you are playing the role of a projector of conscience, using moralising words. Know that you do not embody morality at all. In addition, know that you mock true morality. I do not think that you are the monopole of truth on this earth. Please, before condemning or judging human beings freely, you should start with yourself or propose something more interesting. –Sincerely and without bitterness
اسيا Posted 2009-11-22
If a graduate works for 2,025 Algerian dinars within the youth employment programme, what would he do with his diploma? Throw it in the dustbin? Thank you.
جميلة Posted 2009-11-26
We are a group of physicians who decided to immigrate to Canada for a better life suitable for the Algerian physician.
لطيفة Posted 2009-12-03
Where equality between the employees in the health sector and teachers? Does the state want health workers to stop working for three weeks so that you'll act fairly? Where is the law for workers who don't claim their rights?
tayebob Posted 2009-12-11
I have been a dentist for 21 years. I am in the 13th class according to the wage structure. This is the same rank as the director of the CEM, who did not even go to high school. And this wise woman says that they are taking into account our diplomas in the classification!? What an unfortunate country! Unfortunate!
samia Posted 2009-12-12
I am a civil servant in the national education system. I enrolled at the university today in order to perfect my skills and better serve my country by contributing to the good education of our children. Instead of finding help at my place of work, I found myself confronted with a bureaucratic problem from the head of the establishment. He does not want to listen to reason. He scheduled me for hours contrary to what I asked and he does have the means to do so. So, I beg anyone who is well informed to advise me if I have the right to make a complaint or write an open letter to the president of the republic in order to find a satisfactory conclusion to this problem. Please, respond quickly.
skander Posted 2009-12-16
By God, this is a catastrophe. This means my life was wasted. I entered the workforce at the age of 18. Today, I am 50. I am one of the starving people who have nothing to eat. This the union of the bosses.
بودربالة محمد Posted 2009-12-17
I want a study or research paper about an accounting and tax study of wages and salaries.
الجيلالي Posted 2009-12-28
My brothers, if you don't get a good pay, you don't work well and let it go to the valley. Officials like to take people to the streets to work so that they will help us with lentils and beans. As for buying a house, or eating meat every day, that's a non-starter unless God grants you a job in which you take bribes. In order to get that job, you have to be a senior employee.
قرافي Posted 25 days ago
We urgently need to fight starvation and secure a dignified life for the Algerian worker. This is associated with the high cost of living in Algerian markets. The alarm bell is ringing about malnutrition. Thank you.
العيد Posted 17 days ago
I am a part-time worker with a contract. I have a family of three. My salary is less than 800 Algerian dinars. Where should I go to? Please guide me. Thank you.
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