Algeria-Morocco border remains closed

2005-10-10

Closed since 1994, the land border between Algeria and Morocco remains the setting for traffic of all kinds, to the great benefit of those living along the border and the intense displeasure of politicians in both countries.

By Nazim Fethi for Magharebia in Algiers – 10/10/05

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The land border between Algeria and Morocco was closed in 1994 by Algiers, following Morocco's decision to impose entry visa requirements on Algerian nationals.

Families with members on the other side of the fence impatiently await the reopening of the border so that they can relive the days of unfettered commercial exchange, particularly the influx of Algerian tourists.

In Maghnia on the Algerian side and Oujda on the Moroccan side, people strain for the slightest sign. If a minister from either country visits the other, the trip is perceived as a signal of the imminent reopening of the border posts of Akid Lotfi on the Algerian side and Zoudj Bghal on the Moroccan side.

Though slowed, commercial exchanges have never entirely stopped due to the border closure. Smugglers profit from the wide extent of the border (1800km) to move goods between the two countries.

Algerian fuel, which is of good quality and cheaper than that sold at Moroccan pumps, is highly prized in Morocco. Each day, hundreds of litres are transported on the backs of donkeys, providing a lifeline for hundreds of families on both sides of the border.

In the town of Maghnia, seven petrol stations see interminable daily queues of vehicles with a second tank so smugglers can stock up on as much fuel as possible to be transported by donkey in cans to Morocco.

the most-easily exported merchandise into Algeria was cannabis

On the Moroccan side, the most-easily exported merchandise into Algeria was cannabis. Though the government has received UN aid to help cannabis growers in the Rif region opt for mass-consumption crops, many of them persist in growing the lucrative crop.

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In the past, Algerian territory was used as a transit zone into Europe. But with strengthened border controls in southern European countries, that has changed.

Routes used by smugglers are under more surveillance, due to the surge in the number of illegal immigrants arriving from sub-Saharan countries.

As a transit area for entry to Europe, the Algerian-Moroccan border has become a place of forced exile for many people

The governments of both countries have set up mixed inter-ministerial commissions to examine the technical questions associated with reopening the border. Their conclusions are keenly awaited on both sides.

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mjalil28 Posted 2007-02-03

I am Algerian and have family in Morocco. I wish borders are opened!

عبدالرزاق الجزائري Posted 2007-02-03

I love a Moroccan woman and want to marry her but the borders are closed down. Why are they not opening them to let the peoples live!

مراد وجدة المغربية Posted 2007-02-12

I am Moroccan. I have a family in Telemcen. I wish the borders are open between the two countries so that we can visit our families.

هواري Posted 2007-02-18

I would like to tell the brother who says he loves a Moroccan girl. Dont say "But" this is not an excuse. There are still planes out there, all you have to do is go there and get her..patience comes afterwards...God willing they will open the borders!

العوني Posted 2007-05-20

I'm Algerian and I don't want the borders with Morocco to be opened because this will cause an economic and social loss for us

mohamed Posted 2007-05-21

We are also going to lose out.

touareg Posted 2007-06-06

I am tired of this. Open the borders and make it not expensive! (To the politicians, you can do whatever you want, no?) We are brothers.

Algerie-Marseille Posted 2007-06-08

I am an Algerian from Marseille. I have family in Berkane. Open the borders!

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adil Posted 2007-06-09

I would like to visit Algeria. I have many friends from there who are waiting. On the Internet, we have talked about how there is less than 2 hours separating us. God alone can solve this conflict.

hamza Posted 2007-07-01

This is your nation, one nation

bilel Posted 2007-07-16

Following the attacks perpetrated in Marrakech in 1994, Morocco accused Algeria's secret service of authoring the act. Our country then immediately imposed visas on Algerians entering Morocco. Algeria challenged Morocco to provide proof; in the other case, they should officially apologize to my country. (I am Algerian.) No evidence implicating Algeria's military security was provided, nor was any evidence that Algeria claimed to have provided. Thus, it is completely normal that the borders must remain in the current state ( i.e. closed.) We have a wonderful president in our republic. May God look after him. He was and is a wonderful diplomat; he knows what he is doing. Economically, we have not had any international debt since April 2007, and we have more than $90 billion in reserve: we do not need to open our borders. We do not need that in any way. Moreover, any such opening of borders would appear to necessitate many expenses. It is true that in diplomacy each body sees its own interests. Furthermore, at the time of the attack on Marrakech and after Morocco's authorities had accused the secret service, I saw a Moroccan interviewed by a journalist on a news show televised on France 2 say, "We do not want this in our home. May the Algerians go home and do this there." It was this that broke my heart. Now, thanks to God and Bouteflika, our country is moving along and our President has launched a gigantic projects: the East-West Motorway, which spans more than 1200 kilometers; the building of more than 1 million residences in less than 5 years; the construction of water desalinization stations; and a new airport in Algiers, the old one of which was suffering. Algerians have become happy: *during times of terrorism some are still untouched.* I, therefore, do not see what interest Algeria has in opening its borders. You grow drugs and that is not right. You smuggle back gasoline and oil in exchange for cannabis. That is the commercial exchange you are offering. No! We are doing fine here at home. Now I am looking for something more from Tunisia: that the Algerians tourists who went there during the time of the conflict with Morocco will be respected. There are 900 thousand of them. Morocco's authorities have done much wrong by accusing the secret service of being behind the bombing in Marrakech. In Algeria, we respect this institution, the secret service, greatly. Moreover, your press disrespects our president, often saying that it is the army that runs our country. Bouteflika put his army in the barracks and it is their task to stop terrorism. You press never says anything good about Algeria. Even when Sarkozy went to Algeria for his first voyage in the Maghreb, your country "deferred" his visit, saying that the KING's schedule was busy. There are many problems between Algeria and Morocco. In order to have good relations, all the problems must be resolved, including that of the independence of the Sahrawi population's independence, because in this lays a contradiction. The late King Hasan II made war against Mauritania, so that at the end of the war, Morocco and Mauritania split the territory. And when Mauritania underwent a regime change, Morocco claimed the whole territory, laying claim to Oranaie. In my opinion, Algeria's authorities have long awaited the official proof from Morocco concerning the Marakech bombing, and as long as they are not provided, the border will remain closed. This is thanks to Algeria's NIF, not to me. With Bouteflika at the head, and Ahmed Ouyahia, Dr. Chakib Khelil and our Minister of Privatization, Algeria is in good hands.

لبنى Posted 2007-08-02

I'm Moroccan and hope that the borders will be opened. I needn't say that it should be opened, but at least we're Arabs and neighbours, we've the same dialect. It's a shame that borders separate us for nothing, it's in the interest of Morocco and Algeria, we hope all the good inchallah.

البليدى Posted 2007-08-12

Salam alaikoum, I love the Moroccan people as they're Muslim, Arab and Maghreb people. So the borders between Algeria and Morocco shouldn't be opened, as all the calamities of Morocco are from Algeria. The Morccan has become highly befuddled by the Algerian. I'm Algerian and I ask the Algerian state to find adequate job openings for the young people on the border region, that's my sole concern.

assia Posted 2007-08-13

This is for the Sahara, I'm against opening the borders as they want to take the Sahara which is 100% Moroccan, anyone who touches my country I'll kill him.

عبدو المغربي Posted 2007-08-23

In the name of God, I'm a free Moroccan Amazigh...I hope that borders will not be opened until the day of judgment. Wealth is the wealth of the mind and not money. Thanks to God we know what our rights and duties...You've talked about the Moroccan cannabis but you have not talked about Algerian drug pills. You who so proud of Bouteflika, Bouteflika and his generals are the people who wish most that the war in Iraq continues so that they benefit from the income of oil...You have to develop your country and your oppressed nation...Stay away from chaos and let Morocco in peace.

مغربي Posted 2007-09-22

I hope that Algeria will open the borders with us as we really want old days to come back when bread was baked in Maghnia and Mssirda and we eat it here in Oujda, Saadia, and Sides Kanoune. I wish this from my heart as I have many friends from Algeria in the towns of Nedruouma and Laghzaouate. I used to spend my holidays in the Souahlia (Laghzaouate) situated in Tlemcen. I have also studied in the mosque of prince Abdelkader in Maghnia. Long live Moroccan-Algerian friendship.

Algerie en force Posted 2007-09-22

God willing, the border will be opened. Long live Algeria!

un algerien Posted 2007-11-04

I would just like to inform you that all Algerians are against reopening the border. No matter the relationship between countries or people, it is necessary to always have a win-win situation. And, this is not what is going on between Algeria and Morocco. -Bye

tarik algérie Posted 2007-11-17

I always visit Morocco, and I never had any problems with my brothers in Morocco. Thanks to God, I travel by plane, it’s better than by road. Long live Morocco of my heart. My brothers, may God protect you don’t talk about drugs and diesel…and nonsense. People are on Mars and you’re talking about nonsense. Long live Algeria and Morocco and my dear Casa, Fes, Khouribga and I say clearly that I’m an Algerian. Inchallah the borders will be opened. A greeting to Moroccans, Rifains, Souss people, Amazighs and all.

طاهير من الجزائر Posted 2007-11-18

I'm Algerian, and I have my family in Marrakech. I ask God that borders will be opened. We're one nation and one family. Those who don't want this are just calling for division, it's a Jewish policy (divide and rule). We, thanks to God, are Muslims, are concerned about our relatives that's all. As to corruptions, it cannot be avoided whether the borders are opened or closed. Religion and conscience are only capable of that. I hope that the Moroccan-Algerian relations will be improved as soon as possible.

m@dz Posted 2007-11-25

By God, I just want to go to Morocco for the sake of a friend of mine, and celebrate some Moroccan soirées. But this is the problem I cannot enter with my car by land. They told me that I have to go by plane but I want to go around by car. We hope to find a problem with the government as soon as possible. Okay.

etrehumain Posted 2007-11-28

Hello Algerians and Moroccans! Hi Moroccans! I hope you are doing well. Hello dear friend I hope you well inchallah. I am just going to say one thing to you all and I will be brief about it. Let us suppose, my dear Moroccan brothers, that our most honourable intelligentsia and sociologists such as Ibn Khaldoune were alive and with us today, what would they say about this horrible debate, about this terrible disagreement, about this shameful split? The would be in disdain and frustrated? Why? It is not hard to answer! Mehdi, let down your war axe and instead of going on about this and that, let us turn the page and be human with your “pride”, but without your “hatred of Algerians.” You exaggerate to much, my dear brother, though you have so reasonably argued before. Let us build a united and strong Maghreb, just as was done by the Europeans, who are now profiting from our unrest, our division, our infantilism, and our senseless squabbling. My respects and a nice goodbye to all my readers.

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محمد العاصمي Posted 2007-11-30

I hope that borders won’t be opened because Morocco has become a gate for illegal immigrants, there many smugglers that smuggle drugs to Algeria. And there, it’s the opposite, they smuggle the Algerian oil to Morocco. For this reason I call for closing borders definitively. Algeria has no interest in opening borders with Morocco. There’s a Moroccan accusation against Algeria that Algerian intelligence services are responsible for the Marrakech attacks. This is a false accusation because there’s no evidence to this. Long live free Algeria. I would also like to mention borders between the countries, when Algeria was colonized by France, Morocco didn’t talk to France and didn’t claim its territories which were taken from it. When we had our independence, Morocco came like a cat calling for settling the crisis of borders but didn’t take Tindouf and won’t take it as we’ve found gold and iron in it. So long live Tindouf the Algerian

algérienne fier de l etre Posted 2007-12-04

Salam to all Maghreb people. I really hope that Moroccan and Algerian borders will be opened. This is serious, because we're brothers anyway, I have friends whom I love so much as well as a family in Morocco. I can go by plane but I hope that hearts will be conciliated and I say to Moroccans you're our brothers, but God is Almighty, we can do nothing, God is Almighty.

lewat Posted 2007-12-21

I am a white Algerian (not Arab). I wish with all my heart that the border with Morocco stay not only closed forever but also shrewdly surveyed in order to eradicate terrorism and the shadow market ruining Algeria and its economy. I also ask that the Algerian leaders do the same thing with their borders with Libya and Tunisia, countries which support terrorism in Algeria. Because of the weakness of the Algerian dinar, Tunisia and Libya are acquiring Algeria’s riches, not to mention contreband. On the other hand, Algeria’s borders need to open up to benefits from Africa, with which we have a lot more to gain. And, we have less problems with the Africans than we do with the jealous Arabs in Algeria. It is a question of interest, and interest must not involve sentiments. As an African country, Algeria must definitively renounce a union with the Maghreb and opt more for an African Union. Algeria can only succeed with Africa, not the Arab countries. Libya, Morocco and Tunisia each officially claim a part of Algeria’s territory uprooted from us by France with so much difficulty.

هواري من الجزائر Posted 2007-12-23

God willing the borders will be opened. We are one people.

اسيا Posted 2007-12-24

I am an Algerian woman, I hope that borders won't be opened so that young people won't get more addicted to drugs than they are now.

abdelilah rifi Posted 2007-12-30

I don't want the borders with Algeria opened because Morocco benefits more from the situation. The Sahara is and will remain Moroccan despite your schemes. Are you not tired of squandering your money on countries to recognize the Polisario? This is why you have such a high rate of unemployment. Wake up Algerians, you have have been in deep slumber.

abdelilah rifi Posted 2007-12-30

We are all brothers and sisters, only political games create problems and borders between Moroccans and Algerians.

egassap Posted 2008-01-04

Far from the eyes makes far from the heart. Let us look each other in the eye and cultivate that which brings us together. I am what history has made me, and your and my history are the same, my brothers and sisters.

samira Posted 2008-01-19

I am Algerian and my husband is Moroccan. We are a simple example of the thousands of people who would like the border to be opened. Do not be egotistical. Think about us. We are two people, yet so united in our blood. Despite everything, we are brothers and will be so for life. Politics have separated us, but our roots are always intertwined as one. There are dishonest people on both sides, but, God willing, the majority is conscious that we are brothers and our blood is mixed. Long live Algeria! Long live Morocco!

lewat Posted 2008-01-30

Closing the border with Morocco is nice and all, but it is not enough; we need to close the borders with Tunisia and Libya as well in order to avoid drug and weapons trafficking, both of which are contraband and arms for the Islamists. Algeria can only succeed in its economic reboot if these borders are hermetically shut, such that losses would be zero. Destroying the economies of Morocco, Tunsisia and Libya by shutting the borders will, in turn, deal a large blow to certain European countries’ economies that are behind the blockade on Algeria’s economy. With regard to these dangerous neighbours of ours, who serve the interests of their masters, some countries in Europe dream of seeing Algeria collapse. Algeria must be vigilant with its borders, because it is there where everything plays out. If Algeria were well governed, it would benefit enormously from its strategic position by overshadowing its dangerous neighbours. We should also shut down the pipeline running through Morocco and Tunisia. Such misdirection of pipelines is not profitable for Algeria and the real winners are its ignoble neighbours. In the end, Algeria should stop being the Maghreb's milking cow.

BAD Posted 2008-01-31

Let us be for the opening of the border between Morocco and Algeria. Currently, in order to go from Ahfir to Boukanoune, a distance of 600 metres, you have to take a trip of 2000 kilometres from Oujda to Casablanca, Casablanca to Algiers and Algiers to Boukanoune. What a shame this is for two enemy brothers.

mass71 Posted 2008-02-04

Personally, I am against any reopening of the borders. I am an economist and I know quite well what I am speaking about. The reopening of the borders is not in the interests of Algeria and the Algerians, but, on the contrary, it could seriously harm us and bring us enormous losses ranging up to $10 billion a year. So long as Algeria is subsidising several foodstuffs and oil products, it cannot and should not open its borders. Rather, it needs to better protect and keep watch over its borders, and not just on the Western side, but in the South and the East as well. We need to be realistic here: Algeria needs investments and the transfer of technology, not contraband like we so recently saw with the people who were stealing electric cables in Algeria. These traitor of our nation have Moroccan businesses as their accomplices to accept these products. As for us, if the Moroccan state will not do what is necessary to stop the people, we should consider this a declaration of economic war. -Bye

وليد Posted 2008-02-10

Salam alaikoum. I’m an Algerian citizen and want to visit dear Morocco. I hope so much that borders between the countries will be opened. I say to the people who compound tumult, may God guide you.

thecle Posted 2008-02-14

Personally, there is only one reason that would drive me to say “No!” to the border between Morocco and Algeria being opened, and that reason is all the drugs and hashish that would come in here and poison our children, while Algerians will become zombies, the living dead, incapacitated and easy prey for recruiters of suicide-bombers. And, if Algeria does not have young elite to relieve the entire country, it will drown.

thecle Posted 2008-02-15

Censorship is all you know. The truth will always hurt. May we hold on to the telephone in the Arab World.

REDA-MARSEILLE Posted 2008-02-16

What you have just put forth is ridiculous. You must have been educated in Algeria because your reasoning is absurd. It would better to say that we have been brought up in hatred for our neighbours, be they Tunisian, Moroccan or otherwise. This is clear when we go abroad and are considered to be plague-stricken people both by Arabs and even the Europeans. Remember Bouteflika’s discourse in 2001! Try to step out of your shell a little bit, out of your rigid frame of mind, and look around: the world is bustling. I am shocked that you say you are an economist. Such a true patriot.

taous Posted 2008-02-17

I completely agree: we should not open our borders, especially not with Morocco. All of the evil Algeria has suffered through because of this border is worse than that of the war with France. If we open the borders, it means the immediate death of our country. The bombings in Nacira were at the hands of a Libyan. In Souf, all 100 of the terrorists are foreigners (Moroccans, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Malians, etc.) Do you see what kind of hospitality this is? Let us stop this daily bloodletting. At this sieve of a border, illegal African immigrants come in at 40 to 50 dirhams a head, and with them in comes thieving and drugs and out goes our reserves of gas and oil. We get bad medicine, laundered money and even the robbing of the Marabout, Gazanette and, especially, Meniant cemeteries. They are all the same: nuisances and pollutants. The people coming into the West from Morocco are dumping their batteries, their tires, their leather dies and other noxious things. This is a total disaster. The Kingdom is lawless. You are good where you are, Moroccans. You have France and Spain. It is better now than with this so-called “United Arab Maghreb”, which will never see the light of day.

ouahmed Posted 2008-02-18

Hello. Listen my Moroccan brothers: we agree that our Morocco is governed by Jews. We are afraid to hand the Polisario over to you because they are going to take Ceuta, Melilla, and Isla Perejil from you. Leave the Polisario in our hands, because there are people who, when you give them an inch, will take a mile.

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DJAMILA Posted 2008-02-18

What are you doing with our families, separated for 14 years now? You Polisario people have caused us a lot of harm in the United Arab Maghreb by supporting this corrupt and heinous regime. We know you are not striving to unite these two people, the Algerians and Moroccans. Please, go back where you came from and leave us alone!!!

Jamal, Riffian Amazigh Hollanda Posted 2008-02-19

Some things I read really make me sick to my stommach! I`m an Amazigh who is fighting for the cultural rights of Imazighen and setting up local socio-economic projects in rural areas in Morocco. Some people are here are trying to make believe that the they are "white" and not Arabs and hate Morocco. Trying to make believe that Imazighen in Algeria hate Imazighen in Morocco. This is totally false and sick to say. Second there are a lot of lies told here about historical facts conserning the Sahara issue and the conflict between Algeria and Morocco. Just look at wikipedia for "Sand War" and you will find the truth. Don`t say that all Moroccans are one people and Algerians are soo different from Moroccons. I did research on the language and culture of my tribe in the Riff, I concluded that my tribe has much more affiliation with the Chaoui and Kabyle of Algeria that the Soussa of Morocco. What does this say? You stupid layers! You know who are the ones that are fighting for a united Maghreb, actually the people will do soo. We don`t want to steal your oil!! We just want our government and yours stop the military build up! and invest in the economy and the people. I can understand why some here don`t accept Moroccans and Algerians visa versa as brothers, they somehow are profiting from the division. The people want unity and brotherhood. The goverment NOT. I don`t give a damn about your oil, Only Allah knows what your intention are, I think you are a Egocentric, payed by Algerian government bloggers who not give a damn about your own Algerians let alone your Moroccan brothers and siters. You are traitors of the worsed kind, Traitors of Algerians, traitors of Allah, traitors of Yourself. We have to leave these people, and try work together!

moumous Posted 2008-02-24

I am against the reopening of the border and I am even partisan to a separation wall being build. And, if you want, we can even send the s***-eating drug runners back home who ruin and shame us! Long live Algeria! Long live the SADR and its president, Mohamed Abdelaziz!

moumous Posted 2008-02-25

Have I been censored?

houari Posted 2008-02-26

“Moumous” can be labeled a baby, and this sort of quadruped knows nothing of politics! I think this baby has forgotten where her teat is and so has been left dumbfounded! You can keep your RASD (“Reports Absolutely Scratch in the Desert”) and Abdelaziz Marakchi for yourself!

RIHAN Posted 2008-02-26

Go on, Moumous- we expected more out of you in Algeria with your president... you are wasting your time in Algeria, Morocco will never give up the Western Sahara.

HSISSEN Posted 2008-02-27

And, what if a referendum were held for all of the Maghreb to ask if they would agree to dismantle all the borders between the countries of the Maghreb??? What do you think of this???

KACI Posted 2008-02-27

Some Algerians - I repeat, some, not all — are behaving like true enemies of Morocco, like Bouguetaya for example, a member of the FLN, and certain soldiers. You can see their stubbornness against Morocco as they blindly support the Polisario, which is dispensing all of its energy through the entire world against Morocco. The unfortunate part is that they know the Sahara was historically Moroccan, not occupied as Algeria once was by France. Try to imagine what would happen if Morocco were to support a separatist movement in Algeria. (And, they do exist) What would your reaction be? You are specialists in backstabbing your brothers. I think the Algerian people are in need of good governance, not troublemakers. I tell you, you are mistaken about your enemies: Morocco is not your enemy. Go take a look instead at Israel, who massacres Palestinians daily, if you think really fear support of oppressors. And why not the people of Algeria, who clearly want to be rid of you...

amine Posted 2008-02-27

Opening borders means pursuing family visits and hope they’re opened very soon.

STEPHANIE Posted 2008-02-28

I am shocked to see two brother countries like Algeria and Morocco hate each other to the point where their borders are closed. When I learned that their borders have been shut for 12 years I was shocked!

maricha Posted 2008-03-01

I do not agree with opening the borders, I hope they will not do this, long live Algeria, jealous woo woo wwoo woo,

FARES Posted 2008-03-01

In Response to Stephanie: This is because we have children who will not forget our old quarrels governing us.

ABDEL Posted 2008-03-01

14 years, not 12 and they don't give a damn if this lasts dozens of years. You can decide for yourself how ignorant and immature they are.

mouradalgere Posted 2008-03-02

I am against any opening of the borders. Everyone should stay on their side, develop by themselves and solve their problems by themselves. Then, when we achieve a free mindset, we can discuss this.

MED Posted 2008-03-04

You cannot progress with these stubborn people.

HASSAN HAKECH Posted 2008-03-04

The Moroccan-Algerian neighbourhood has been historically necessary to these two peoples, and now this weighs heavily on the bilateral relations between Moroccans and Algerians. It is painful to imagine a separation between the two peoples, who are like inseparable twins, destined to live together in order to succeed in a bright future with regards to commercial and financial exchanges. The history of these two peoples leading an anti-colonial struggle for independence and freedom of their homelands definitely attests to their common sort. And, it is this common sort that would be better to reinforce with geographic and historic obligations, ever more demanding of us to eradicate the political evils between the leaders of these two countries and their entrenchment in their militaristically confrontational character. They are threatening the territorial stability of these two states. We have certainly missed the opportunity for a popular reconciliation, which, in turn, could have give new blood to authentic relations between these two neighbours. These two countries’ leaders’ political quarrels no longer hide the fraternal love between the Algerian and Moroccan people. The true problem is that there remains an obstacle in the path to the social progress and economic development of the two countries. And, this obstacle is their political character: there is a lack of democracy and that there is a dictatorial regime no longer gives us hope for the blossoming of stable and sustainable relations, relations which could really break down both the psychological and demagogic borders separating these two peoples. A significant part of the population on both sides is leading a life of misery and despair because of the unjust allocation of goods. Bureaucratic machinations and corruption have crushed the citizenry’s purchasing power, putting them on the verge of bankruptcy, while unemployment is attacking the young people.

amine Posted 2008-03-13

By God, How can you Moroccans look at Algerians? We have pride and how do we come amass there, we're not begging you. We have everything, in Algeria we need people to clean shoes, enough.

جزائري Posted 2008-03-14

The borders should remain closed because there is no use in opening them. The borders with Libya and Tunisia should also be closed because these countries live off Algeria by smuggling. For example, Moroccans in general and Oujda in particular live off Algerian goods and are a burden to us. You will see that closing borders will damage the Moroccan, Libyan and Tunisian people; these rubbish serve their masters who are enemies of Algeria. I always hear that Moroccan officials are making meetings with our officials to open the borders because ever since they were closed, the Moroccan economy is worsening so that many Moroccans chose smuggling. I ask the president Bouteflika to close the borders with Libya and Tunisia to see the reaction of the arrogant Kadhafi and Zine El Abidine and his people who live off Algerian tourists and our resources. So long live Bouteflika and long live Algeria.

صهيب Posted 2008-03-14

I so "no" to opening borders with these ungrateful neighbours.

rafik Posted 2008-03-17

After the 1994 events in Marrakesh, the Moroccan regime found itself in a real maze, fearing a loss of tourism revenue. They found no one to blame but Algeria. Therefore, our rulers should keep the borders closed to discipline and punish the Moroccan regime for the outrageous error of wrongly accusing Algeria and distorting our reputation. I also ask our Algerian leaders to expel all Moroccans who corrupt Algeria youths with drugs. This is their job as most Maghreb young people have been worn down by Morocco's drugs. I also ask Bouteflika to close borders on the other side with our other dangerous neighbour Tunisia. Let’s bear witness and show all Arabs how Tunisian tourism will collapse. Everyone knows that they are traitors and feed upon our tourists (two million Algerian tourists invade Tunisia every summer). This is a quarter of Tunisia's population which we should also disown as we are on the way to disowning Morocco and breaking relations with Tunisia. Tunisia is fulfilling the goals of its masters in Europe whose aim is to destroy Algeria. As you know, most European countries hate Algeria. Closing borders with these unknown neighbours will boost our economy because they use the weakness of the Algerian dinar, low prices and smuggled Algerian goods to the point that we have noticed that Oujda, Nador and other towns consume Algerian goods on a daily basis. This is a huge burden on the Algerian state. I expect Libya to respect Algerians.

حميدات الجزائر Posted 2008-03-21

Hamidate Algeria. When the borders were open with Morocco, what did we, Algerian, reap, just social evils, drugs and emptying the Algerian market of anything that could be sold, from aluminium kitchenware, children's milk, energy products and so on. I can’t count what was plundered and what is still being plundered from the resources of our mother Algeria. Finally we are called terrorists. Anyway, long live Algeria, I and other Algerians like me, and there are so many of us, are against the opening of the land border. Let the air borders open. This is Karam from

maroc Posted 2008-03-21

Salam alaikoum. I am a Moroccan woman. I hope the border will be opened. I love someone in Algeria, I want to see him.

ادام Posted 2008-03-21

I am from Oujda and will always be from Oujda. We have nothing to ask of you cannibals. Our wealth is in our country, Morocco is sweet.

fouad Posted 2008-03-22

Our enemies are our brothers in the Grand Maghreb. Maybe our children will be wiser. I am neither Algerian, nor Moroccan; I am North African!

MAGH.DZ Posted 2008-03-22

I am responding to Mr. Intellectual: We want the borders to be closed for life. My name is Maghnaoui. I am from the border. I hope that a wall will be built there soon, in order to avoid all these comments. That way, everyone would have to go 50 kilometres in order to refuel. Algeria is being taken as a milking cow, as if there is nothing but natural gas and gasoline here. Go take a look, and you will definitely understand that we need to put a wall up for the entire distance of the border. Put radar surveillance on it. I am fed up with these traffickers and the people who do not love our country, Algeria!!!

ira Posted 2008-03-23

You are truly mistaken. Morocco doesn't give a damn whether the borders are open. This is just to have Algeria answer for what it has done. That is to say: Algeria is the main party in the affair with the Sahara. There you have it: there's the truth. Personally, as a Moroccan, I do not want the borders open and I know what I'm talking about.

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slim Posted 2008-03-23

I am an Algerian from Tlemcen. I cannot believe I have to take a plane to go to Morocco! It is just an hour and a half away by road! I hope with all my heart that the border will be opened as soon as possible.

zindine Posted 2008-03-24

All the comments not wanting the borders to be opened are from the Polisario members pretending to be Algerians. I am Algerian. I go to Casablanca and Fes every year. They are very welcoming there. And, believe me, they are not spiteful. Long live Algeria, Morocco and the Maghreb!

Kahina Posted 2008-03-24

Peace and mercy of God upon you. I noticed that most Algerians are against the idea of opening borders, I am also with them and support them because honestly we will reap nothing from that and…(as others have said, I don’t want to make repetitions). But what is strange is that Moroccans don’t accept the truth. I am sure 100% that if Morocco were in the place of Algeria it would have taken tougher and bigger measures may be even building a separation wall all along the border. Try to understand us our Moroccan brothers. We haven’t closed borders for a ‘whiff’; I mean just like that without reason. And as I am an Algerian, I say that God is the most powerful and we’re helpless. Smuggling, exploiting our resources is the cause. Open your minds and hearts, be more reasonable and understanding of the situation. Let’s look at another point…Since you accuse us of narrow-mindedness and big-headedness, wasn’t it you who begun with imposing the visa on the Algerians in order to enter your territory???? After you have accused us of being terrorists???!!!! Or did you want to visit us and not visit you??? Let’s first solve the problems between us then consider the issue of opening borders…No to opening borders for the time being, no and a thousand no. Peace, mercy and blessings of God upon you.

Hocine l'Algérien Posted 2008-03-25

A completely united Africa is still not worth much in the face of the world powers, the USA, EU and China, that is. So, Algeria being alone means nothing at all! And, Morocco being alone means a lot less than nothing at all! I am against the borders being opened before all the problems existing between our two countries are solved, and this includes the Western Sahara. In these problems I am also including contraband, Moroccan drugs, the Algerian security situation (Moroccans do not want to take account for their terrorists), the Moroccan press’ and government’s fierce propaganda against he Algerian government (which it should instead be using at its example), human rights in Morocco and human rights in Algeria (even if this is does not have the same significance). Morocco’s international position is shameful: it has supported the United States against Iraq, it has relations with Israel and there are several other things that I will not cite here.

mass71 Posted 2008-03-26

First of all, I want to respond to someone here who judged me as being educated in hatred. In your opinion, is defending the interest of you country hatred? And, find me a single insulting or disrespectful word that I made against someone in what I wrote! The person who is being disrespectful is you, given that you judged me and you wrote a contemptuous phrase in your comment. Did the French school system teach you this misplaced arrogance? You need to bring your ... over here in order to say that you are defending the interests of Algeria. I would like to say to the people who have families on the other side of the border that the general interests of Algeria come before your individual interests. We will not bring hardship to the Algerian economy because you have family over there. The interest of Algerians needs to be universal. What we lived through in the 1990s should teach us a lesson: Algeria needs to count on itself and its children. Our neighbours are only looking out for their own interests. This is normal, but it also clear that it is our right to defend our interests. The public powers in Algeria need to understand now that the development of tourist infrastructure and of resort villages that meet international norms is a necessity in Algeria in order to attract both domestic and international tourists. This will permit us to revive the country’s economy and to avoid losing hundreds of millions of dollars elsewhere. And, this will also allow us to begin a movement to sensitise Algerians and foreigners, that is to say: to tell Algerians that tourism in Algeria is a way to participate in the country’s development. Being an Algerian is not just a slogan; it means action. Long live the Algerians, the people who put the interest of Algeria before their own! Not spitting on u

samire Posted 2008-03-26

This is not his country. If you want to open the border, put military police in place to supervise it. I love my country more than I love anyone else in this world.

HALIMA Posted 2008-03-27

I think that opening the borders will bring our peoples closer together. If we start criticising each other with our meddlesome media, we will never get out of this mess. I think that we are no less intelligent than the Europeans.

KADER Posted 2008-03-27

To hear Mr. Mass speak, it would seem we live in a paradise. I do not know what city this guy could be living in so as to not be aware of the misery surrounding him. Maybe he is a propagandist from our generals’ mafia government. Isn’t that so!? I know it’s true! Ooh la la !!!

crafachedor Posted 2008-03-29

May God guide the politicians. They taught him how to oppress and he became oppressive. An oppressor from whom I have received enough oppression.

hamza Posted 2008-03-30

Long live Algeria and Morocco forever, thank you.

faride Posted 2008-03-30

I am an Algerian man living in Morocco (Oujda). 14 years of closed borders, so we don’t ask for the reopening of borders, we ask for the building of a wall along the border. (a separating wall, dust-proof from both sides). 14 is too much. Generations and generations have gone. They forgot us, there are no Algerians in Oujda, the free Algerians are those who bring Euros, but those who look for their homes aren't Algerian.

RATIBA Posted 2008-03-31

I hope the border won’t be opened. There are still many problems between the two countries. Morocco is always asking Algeria to open borders and Algeria always refuses. Morocco knew that it would refuse, therefore it is always asking for borders to be opened to show to everyone that Algeria is the stubborn side in the Algerian-Moroccan conflict. We shouldn’t forget the conflict of the Western Sahara. So when will the borders be opened? We can’t know except as time passes by… We want that Arabs won’t have to exchange their currencies when they travel to another Arab country. Europeans have different origins, cultures and languages but they succeeded in making a union in spite of all that. And we Arabs have one origin, one culture, one language and one religion but we aren’t united… There are permanent conflicts, division, closing borders and imposing visas. There is no power and no will but from God.

faride Posted 2008-04-02

As an Algerian residing in the city of Oujda, Morocco, we Algerians do not want an opening of the border, but a wall built all along it. Build a wall along the border!

maghrébin Posted 2008-04-05

There is no country called Algeria...Algeria is just a city in the Great Maghreb...this is the reality...We are one people, we were divided by colonialism. Long live the Greater Maghreb...

maroc =algerie Posted 2008-04-06

Wake up Arabs. It is a war made by the Americans and Soviets during the cold war and you are adding to it. We are brothers, politics are one thing and we are something else. The Sahara is Moroccan.

moi Posted 2008-04-08

In 1994 I spent my summer vacation in Algeria. I crossed Morocco like I did every year in order to go to Algeria. The trip went quite well and we visited all the cities on the way. On the other hand, the return was very very difficult: it was through Morocco and we set aside three days to cross it. For starters, there was a large crowd at the border station that was waiting to get their passport checked. We waited nearly 15 hours at the border station. It was hot and there were no restrooms or water. Then, every time we came to or left a city on our route, there was a police checkpoint. Having an Algerian passport means a complete search, even for my little four-year-old brothers and sisters. Then, when we finally arrived in Tangier, and—surprise!—before entering the city we had to go through another control point. “Do you have an Algerian passport?” “Yes.” “Turn right, then enter the parking lot.” And—big surprise!—there were hundreds of Algerians waiting here in this confined space that was, once again, without a restroom or water. Then, in order to get our boarding passes for the boat, they (I swear to you) questioned everybody, even the four-year-old children! Here were the questions: “Where were you?”; “What did you do?”; and. “Why did you come to Morocco?” They treated us like dogs!!! I can tell you this because I lived through it! I was there and it was a real nightmare! We were traumatised. You would have thought we were terrorists instead of tourists!!! We swore to ourselves to never go through Morocco again. So, I personally have a question: why do the Moroccan authorities allow this and then now ask for the opening of the borders? Is it to make us suffer more? I say never again to this!

KARIM -31 Posted 2008-04-08

The opening is not desirable except for those people who have members of their families on both sides of the border, Libyans and Tunisians. May the people who do not like Morocco or Algeria, the racist people on both sides and people who have bad memories not speak in the name of others. No one is obliging them to cross this border. I tell myself to remember the inhumane deportation of 40 thousand Moroccans in 1975.

Amghar Posted 2008-04-08

What I learned from the sterile participation of the majority of our brothers connected to this forum is that their discourse results from a culture of despotism acquired through centuries of people more advanced than them—Romans, Arabs, Moroccans/Almoravids, Turks and the French (for 140 years). It is to be highlighted that, on the other hand, the “socialist”, “democratic”, “popular” republic of these connected peoples is guided by Collaborators turned so-called “heroes” of Colonel Lacoste’s "valiants". (I will not pollute this forum by citing him.) Where is pride and dignity and the (false) pseudo-wasta?

bouhou Posted 2008-04-08

Why are we getting stuck? When he inherited a nation that was torn apart and in crisis from Watergate, the late President Gerald Ford said, "Truth is the glue that holds government together, and I would even say, it is the glue that holds civilisation together." To get Algeria out of this crisis, we need to first understand why it collapsed. From its birth, Algeria was built on a fabric of lies and a dead ideology, which promised everything, but which ended up by confiscating all our liberties. The state wants to manage everything and prevent the freedom of enterprise. When one wants to create equality in a society, one can only level things downwards. The day after the collapse of the communist system, an unfortunate model followed by our cretins of leaders (and by the RASD), the young students took to the streets of Moscow with banners: “Proletarians of the world! Forgive us for having misled you for 50 years!” If we compare all the Arab countries (and those of Europe) that are part of the "USA club" to the "hot-headed rebels"— Algeria, Libya, Syria, Iraq and so on— who followed those pathetic ones in the East, then we see that on one side there is peace, STABILITY, prosperity and calm, and on ther other turbulent and dangerous suburbs. While the nations that belong to this “club” are grouping together in 'clusters' (EU, NAFTA, etc.) to face the ruthlessness of the ongoing globalisation together, we Algerians, guided by our ignoramuses since 1962, remain stubborn, creating parasitic states that have no chance to survive such as the RASD, a machination of the Polisario. Under the guise of reprisals— especially out of envy towards King Hassan II for having…

bouhou Posted 2008-04-08

…for having annexed the Western Sahara— we rounded up all the Algerians living in Morocco at that time, even those who were born there— the men, women, elderly and children— and literally threw them over the border. All of this took place after having chased out all the Jews, Christians and educated Algerians since independence. What is worse, the day after independence, Minister so-and-so of Industry shamelessly and unrestrainedly insulted our neighbours with “When Morocco will still be making its tomato sauce and Tunisia its harissa, Algeria will have its heavy industry…” (toz). And, what do we have 45 years later? Nothing. Nothing at all. We have no heavy industry, no running water, no harissa and no tomato sauce, and our agriculture is now nothing but a memory, because the Algerian peasant is chewing gum nowadays, playing tennis, reading Karl Marx and no longer planning on exporting their revolution to their calm, industrious neighbours. God ended up making us pay for this kof'r (hubris) and incredible arrogance. Today, it is easy to understand what kind of sh-t our country is in because of ignoramuses of this calibre. According to a ranking of 54 nations compiled by the United Nations in the mid 1950s, Algeria was ranked 14th, above Portugal and Spain, in terms of wealth produced per capita. But, it inexorably slipped to 74th in the world according to the 2001 UN report on human development. 14 years later, what has become of Algeria!!!??? More than 12 million Algerians live in poverty, six million of which are below the poverty line. In the first semi-annual report, Algeria’s very official National Economic and Social Council (CNES), while noting…

bouhou Posted 2008-04-08

…while noting the good financial results and billions of dollars of surplus in the trade balance, said that "more than 12 million Algerians are living in poverty, 6 million of which are below the poverty line." According to Antoine Basbous, the director of the Observatory of Arab Countries (OPA), this paradox is explained by the duality of this country. He writes: “The economic life of Algeria is located in the Great South, the social life in the North. There are no ties between the two: some oil wells are more distant from Algiers than the Algerian capital is from Marseille.” In Algeria, power is in the hands of the army, reminds Remy Leveau, a specialist in the Muslim world at IFRI. Or, more accurately, several factions within the army. Over the past decades, they have established a balance of terror upon which surfs President Abdelaziz Bouteflika, who benefits from a supervised autonomy while enjoying the spotlight of the television interviews and the official travel he so craves. "Whenever the population makes a demand a bit too forcefully, there is a murder or a bombing to remind them of the need to maintain a strong army and to save improving quality of life for better days," says Antoine Basbous. For Remy Leveau, this "is enough to discourage foreign investors from coming and taking their share of the Algerian ‘cake’. And, this situation could last a long time." In 2003, the banker William Byrd (who gives out credits from Chase Manhattan Bank), a specialist in Algeria’s case over the past 20 years, prepared an official report stating that Algeria's real standing puts it, among 165 countries studied, among the lowest in all

bouhou Posted 2008-04-08

Everywhere, unemployment, drugs, prostitution, delinquency, suicides and divorces prey upon inhabitants deprived of defences. The entire country— its industrial fabric, agriculture, justice system, institutions, identity, culture, health, schooling and environment— has been methodically soiled. If Algeria today is stagnating in misery and obscurantism, then there are several reasons to explain this situation. Most notably, this comes when we compare what exists in Tunisia and, especially, Morocco. The fight for clans and for a perverse ideology, egged on by the leaders ever since they gained independence in order to mark their differences from their former colonising countries, has led Algeria, or, rather, its rulers, to forge relationships with dubious programmed drones that comprised the totalitarian communist regimes. Who does not remember the love forged with the Cuban Tito, Sékou Touré and all the saddest and most washed-up dictators like Khrushchev and all the other string-alongs who paraded through the Soviet Union’s government. The result is as such: Algeria then plunged into militant Islamism, invoking God. The FIS and other organisations, which still claim to speak in the name of God, have caught it in a bottleneck to the point of strangulation. All the while, Morocco and Tunisia progressed. Out of a sort of jealousy— there is no other word here— which had captured Algeria, Morocco witnessed with utter amazement the birth of the so-called “Polisario” to weaken it. The manipulation was too obvious and all of Africa was able to witness the Sahrawis' dangerous demonstrations. The region of Tindouf and the city itself have always belonged to the Cherifian Kingdom. One day it will be necessary to take stock of the accounts of expansionism and…

bouhou Posted 2008-04-08

…and account for Algerian expansionism and hegemonic behaviour. The Touareg people themselves are on guard and they know what they have to do and what their rights are. Meanwhile, Morocco and Tunisia have opened up to the world, rejected obscurantism and muzzled their false prophets. Today is a bit late for the Algerian government, yet, despite everything, they persist in stifling real democracy and even simple information, which is neither free, nor reliable and which will finally allow the Algerian people (once freed) to also say to the Sahrawi people, “Sorry for having misled you for 30 or 40 or 50 years!”, because the foolhardy and disgusting who have governed us since Independence are our curse, built upon lies and a prison— oh, sorry, I meant to say a “republic”, like the RASD in Tindouf.

Anonymous Posted 2008-04-09

In response to Bouhou: You chose your pen name well, as it refers to the Saharans— that is: those who have no brains to think with. Pardon the explanation. There you have it: the real message is that you are a bouhou who is insulting the Algerians and their government. But, we forgive you because you are a bouhou. The representatives of the Polisario Front in the United Kingdom and Ireland called on organisations for the defence of human rights “to condemn Morocco’s repressive practices against the Sahrawi people in the occupied territories of the Western Sahara.” The Sahrawi Press Service (le Service de Press Sahraoui—SPS) made an appeal. To be more precise, it was made yesterday, at the opening of the a study conducted by the UN’s Human Rights Council on the respect of fundamental rights in the 192 member countries of the UN as part of its new procedure of “universal periodic reviews” (EPU). In its urgent message to the organisation just mentioned, the Polisario Front called on them “to publish press announcements condemning these practices and reveal Morocco’s breach of international commitments in regards to human rights.” Yesterday, Morocco was classified as being in the first group to be subject to an exam as part of the new procedure for verifying the respect of human rights. To this effect, the Polisario Front urged humanitarian organisations to condemn Morocco’s practices and to send announcements to their representatives and anyone in a position to put pressure on them or to further echo these condemnations. This was in the course of calling on them to— in this condemnation— insist upon the “32 years of Moroccan occupation marked by unpunished violation of human rights as put forth in the UN Charter and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights”. The Polisario Front…

Anonymous Posted 2008-04-09

But Tunisia and even Morocco, not the people, but the leaders like M6 and Ben Ali are nothing but the long arm of the Europeans, the biggest dictators in the Maghreb. PS: Come out of your shells and look at the world; it is very beautiful.

vrai Algerien Posted 2008-04-10

Bouhou; You have the right to say what you want, but do not try to liken yourself to Algerians, because you are not an Algerian and you will definitely never be one, okay? You want to be more Algerian than the Algerians themselves! It is unbelievable!!! Are you ashamed to say you are Moroccan??? We Algerians have nothing to settle with anyone, especially you. So, talk about whatever you want, we don’t give a [expletive deleted].

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MERCI Posted 2008-04-10

Mr. Bouhou, Whether you are Algerian or Moroccan, I still want to thank you for having told us this truth. The truth is often bitterly accepted by the nationalists and dictators. Thank you for having refreshed our ideas. And, in this way, in criticising ourselves, we can make progress!!!

slim16 Posted 2008-04-10

Hey Bouhou! You right-wing extremist! You remind me of Le Pen! You know Le Pen!? You are a photocopy of him, in black and white! Do not say “my” Algeria! You are not Algerian! You are a Collaborator! You present yourself (as if!) as a great historian, but you are rambling! You cite people known for being on the Right (Antoine so-and-so). You take up all this space plagiarising a bunch of nonsense! Hey, get over yourself, you blockhead! Get out of here! You are unwanted! Keep your longwinded rhetoric for your friends; you are not convincing anybody!!! Bye from Algiers

mohamed Posted 2008-04-10

It is forbidden to open the border because of the smuggling of food and industrial goods such as fuel and even animals from Algeria to Morocco and because of everything that comes from Morocco... Alcohol... Drugs...

Dakota Posted 2008-04-10

I am an Algerian Canadian. I did my military service in Tindouf from 1982-1984. I am for the closing of the border and for the construction of land-mine lines, just like Mohamed II and company made in order to split Western Sahara into two. Just ask Mohamed II if he remembers the dirty wars. We have not forgotten.

Farid Posted 2008-04-11

In Response to Bouhou (or is it Bouloulou?): Where have you been? This is the first time you have posted on this website. Welcome! Haha! I get it, this is because Algeria just told Morocco no with regards to reopening the border. Sometimes you present yourself as an Algerian, sometimes as a Moroccan. The readers can understand the truth about some of their neighbours in the West this way. As for the border, try to understand that this is not Bouteflika’s fault, but the will of the majority of Algerians. Your newspapers like “l’Opinion” and “la Gazette” even reproached Algeria for neglecting Moroccan businesses in its markets. You present Algeria as a sinister, dilapidated country, citing Antoine Basbous and forgetting what his compatriot Sfeir said. You talk of unemployment, drugs, prostitution, delinquency, suicide, divorce and, moreover, a dirty administration, dirty schools and dirty healthcare. I will answer you on this. First of all, your women were recruited by the Spanish government for temporary work. You are major drug producers. Prostitution exists in your hotels, as does paedophilia. With regards to health, your Minister of Health is determined to put an end to corruption in hospitals. Your schools came in last in class in the Maghreb according to the expression used by your newspapers when citing a UN report. As for your administration, you prisons are incapable of housing your nine terrorists. I cannot conclude my statement here because there are not enough characters are left. Within three years, thanks to Bouteflika, we will have the largest highway network in the world and more than 2500 kilometres of railways. And, within two years our drinking-water problem will be solved. It would seem as if Bouhou comes from a rich country. Where you are from, the people keep warm with wood—that is, if it is available. Just compare GDP per capita.

monpaysalgerie Posted 2008-04-11

Hello, Tell me please: what is the point of opening the Algerian-Moroccan border now? Who requested the opening of border? Was it the Moroccans or the Algerians? In the years of hardship that Algeria suffered through, the Moroccan imposed entry visas on them! And, may they keep this condition for doing so! And, it will be the same here—a visa for the Moroccans wanting to come to Algeria! Stop talking about “two brother countries”! You can see clearly that there is a border, can’t you!? And for how long!? So, this should function just like two cells in the human organism. We do not want parasites in Algeria. Our defence system is indeed effective and rigorous. So, keep your “brother-country” feelings to yourself and whatever else you want! We do not want drugs in our country. We do not want prostitutes either! And, we do not want witchcraft—keep that to yourselves! In any case, we do not need you. Leave us alone! Stop your barking! Pay attention to satisfying your own population wandering around in Europe instead of talking about the Western Sahara! Pay attention to yourselves, your young people and your own domestic problems with the injustice reigning over you, okay!? Eat your bread and shut up!

assou Posted 2008-04-11

In Response to “Anonymous”, the unidentified flying object (UFO), or in other words, Polisario: I definitely said that it is not the Algerians who are doing the insulting, and, there you have it: the UFO has given us the synonym of “Bouhou” in Sahrawi. Did the Polisario call for this??? You better believe it!!! This is pointless. There is a complete lack of credibility. The Polisario itself is burnt out and still on fire. You—a real Algerian!? Shame on you!

mohamed Posted 2008-04-11

Thank you, Mr. Bouhou for this wonderful description of our country’s situation. This must not have been easy for you. You must certainly be suffering. This is an enraged outpouring from your heart. I hope that it did you some good to get that out. But, everything can get better. The generations to come will be capable of bringing us up to par. I am sure that you are a real Algerian, because this is what those Algerians of native origin are like. You have all my respect. The truth is tough, but it always comes to light.

Marocain Posted 2008-04-12

It was the Algerian general who, in 1994, wanted to destabilise Morocco. I am sorry, but there is something to be understood here: Morocco did not steal its stability, it built it up and has always tried to do so with its own brains and its “good sense”. Now, if you are not CAPABLE of ensuring public safety and STABILITY, then it has nothing to do with us. This is not our fault. There is some pride in Algeria, no?? You should have used PINOCCHIO'S magical nose, you know?? You only have to look at your bloodthirsty REGIME, filled with schemers— the real leaders. It is because of them that Algeria has suffered through the rottenness of the black years. They should have eradicated the rise of Islamism in this era in order to avoid bloodshed. Listen: the only thing these tong-tied hotheads know how to do is deal out blows. The ALGERIAN GENERALS wanted to DESTABILISE Morocco (out of jealousy?) so they brought all the world in agreement, PERIOD!! Now, the request for Algeria to open its border is just hot air. [Expletive deleted] This is just diplomacy over a thorny subject. The government wants to prohibit Morocco’s progress, and that is all!!! This is jealousy pure and simple. Algeria does not like that we are passing it up. You are not supposed to go against Algeria and its so-called “leadership”. The pleasantries have gone on for too log. We are not going to wait around to rid ourselves of this Polisario cancer, driven by the hands of Algiers, or, rather, this harmful state. We are tired of it! What are you waiting for Algerians, huh???...to throw some more gas on the fire??? Do you really want to tear out each other’s throats and go through all of this for the beautiful eyes of the Algerian generals? This will not happen! Sorry! This will never happen! But, who knows, maybe one day we are going to crack. Keep it up this belligerence a bit longer, Algiers; you are almost there.

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Farid Posted 2008-04-12

In Response to Bouhou: You took note of currency reserves and the trade surplus since 1999, but you forgot other things, for example: the regulation fund that has savings equivalent to $40 billion. It seems tonight will be a sleepless one for you. You said that Morocco is open, but what is the result of this? It is open to mass tourism that allows the unemployed and the extremists to come over here. Rich people prefer other destinations. One more thing: here, the press all the same talks about poverty, while yours is under the orders of His Majesty. Here is the proof: did the Moroccan press talk about Denmark, that discouraged its citizens from visiting the 14 Muslim countries, including Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia? Not even the press of the last-mentioned country did that! Moreover, you are Moroccan! Your country is poor. It lives thanks to the aid of the Gulf countries and the European Union. It lives anesthetised. You said that Morocco is progressing. Whatever! Open your eyes! Tindouf belongs to you—HAH! I think you need to go visit the shrink on this one. By the way, you don’t happen to have a business near Oujda do you? Know that the border will not open. Not even Bouteflika has interest in doing this, otherwise he would lose the presidential election. And, you can drop your statistics on trade: there are a million Algerians who go to Tunisia for vacation. This country takes Algeria as its milking-cow. You want to make a Union of the Arab Maghreb on the back of Algeria and Libya. No, our country will do just fine without you. The proof.

omega Posted 2008-04-12

I am Algerian. I was born in Algeria. I love my country. This is clear. No one can stop me. Morocco does not know me, but I know the Moroccans. These are the only people in the Maghreb who reproach the Algerians to such a degree. I want to ask: how, with as much as we love each other, did we become enemies? I saw with my own eyes Bouteflika at King Hassan of Morocco's funeral, God protect him. This was a man that loves his country as our president does. What I want to say to my people, whom I love so, is that in life everything can be toppled over with just a day. As they say: “the wheel keeps on turning.” We must prove our intelligence and ability to forgive. This is the richness that God gave all of us. Morocco needs Algeria. There is no shame in saying this. And, everyone knows it, including France and the other Western countries. Algeria still needs to develop itself in many domains. Each can contribute to the other. The only thing I would reproach my people for is being overly proud. This is a big mistake. If we want to become truly rich one day, then we need to give and share with our brother Moroccans; they too are rich. Our country has a major role to play in the Maghreb.

ben bladkoum Posted 2008-04-13

Caution, young Algerian HARRAGAS: do not go to Morocco, they have rabies.

Rachid maghrébin Posted 2008-04-13

Hello, Dear Brothers of the Maghreb and dear brother Algerians who do not like Morocco, I am going to begin with asking only that you do the following: take a look at what is going on in Europe. They do not the same language or religion and they have had two World Wars between France and Germany (and Italy.) Despite all this, they have created a great economic power that is going to crush all the Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans Mauritanians. And, this is because of our division. It is not the border between Moroccan and Algeria that needs to be opened, but all the borders. We need to forget our past and look to the future. Our children are going to be dearly for our arrogance and ignorance. I am sure that if we were to take a survey, all the peoples of the Maghreb would want a union. But, our leaders do not represent the people because they did not get into power via our democratic voice. This affair with the Sahara has moreover poisoned relations. I have always been against such division and for a regrouping. The creation of a satellite state will fix things!? Quite the opposite: this will be the start of wars!!! Rather I should say wars between Muslim brothers. Thank you

clair de lune Posted 2008-04-13

To the indoctrinated... In order to better understand one another, we need to put ourselves in one another’s shoes. When the European countries divided up the world, Morocco— unlike all the other countries— had the misfortune of having been colonised by two powers at the same time, who shared the pie. Thus, 1912 the Franco-Spanish Protectorate was established in Morocco, after France succeeded in pushing the other colonial powers (Germany, Great Britain and Italy) out of the partitioning of Morocco. One of them left, but the other refused (and remains). Worse yet, one of the powers, hoping to keep French Algeria, decided to draw the contours of its borders in a way that was very generous to itself and came at the expense of Morocco—that is: stealing a piece of the latter. Now let us reverse the roles for a moment: in 1962, France wanted to keep the Sahara (which it called its "useful Algeria") and leave Algerians with the coast. It almost succeeded and left the FLN winded. If Algeria had accepted, it would have found itself in the same trouble Morocco does today, as, having no choice, Morocco accepted to be partially colonised. During the Evian Negotiations, some, (being fatigued), considered accepting France’s offer, but it was Boumediene who dispatched his special envoy to let them know that the war would continue in that case. Now, imagine that Boumediene did not succeed and Algeria was parcelled out; it would have organised a Green March to reoccupy Tamanrasset, Laghouat, Ardar and so on 40 years later. The Moroccans, aided by Algeria in snatching their independence, invented this “made-in-Morocco police dispatch”, and told them

algerien100/100 Posted 2008-04-13

With regards to my country, Algeria, Slim-16, Anonymous and others who are all the same: your country of Algeria? Your country is the prison in Tindouf, yeah!!! And you'll have to get out one day, very soon I hope!! You are bad omens for Algeria and the entire region, and don't speak for us, you understand, beggars? May God (if you know him) curse you. Algerians are not this low.

maghribi libre Posted 2008-04-14

To Bouhou and Mohamed: You are not Algerians because you do not know the reality of Algeria. May God cleanse you hypocrites! I know you nationality. Could you be Kawarijite? The Algerian and Moroccan people are brothers. Those who work for the despots will always be weak midgets. They want to sabotage everybody. God save us from your way of thinking!

Dr.Ahmed Posted 2008-04-14

I would like to know how civil the people of the Maghreb are. Insulting a king or president without having seen or heard or talked with him indeed proves how civil we are and the degree to which we are responsible. How can we dare to deny the truth? You will tell me that this is just the behaviour of the Arab-Muslim world. No one here knows how to do anything but make insults and speak poorly and betray one another. This betrayal, this spitting in one another’s soup, is in our blood. We think we are more intelligent, but this is only malice. We are a ridiculous, backward, submissive people. It is true that all the countries of the Third-World are submissive. Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia—we all are submissive. This is because we are backwards and have not even been able to feed our own children properly. So, thanks for recognising our limited faculties. We are subjects of the Jews, because they are strong. They crushed the Arabs and all the Arab countries with their arms. And, France feeds the countries of the Maghreb. America makes and sells weapons. So, let us not spit in one another’s soup. We are a people of brothers, and yet you do not want to be brothers. We helped free you and you insult us like men who come from an uncivilised country.

clair de lune Posted 2008-04-14

200 years. I really fear that the way things are going, that will be the same scenario for Algeria in 44 + 156 = 200 years. It is clear in this case that after chasing the French, the people flipped out and became politicised towards the extreme (as in Algeria). In a documentary I saw, there was a guy who explained from his shantytown in Port-au-Prince how, according to him, the (1,000th, failed) government should be organised and how the world should change to accommodate it...!! (Umm, from his shantytown!).... All this while a farmer just next door (Dominican Republic, similar to Morocco) is preoccupied from dawn to dusk with his harvest and small business. Similar to Haiti, since independence the Algerian farmer today wants to export his failed "revolution" to liberate the little Moroccan and Sahrawi peoples (poor/oppressed, who have never demanded anything from the Algerians) from the villain Malik.

Anonymous Posted 2008-04-15

Where are my comments? You only publish comments that are against Algeria and the Algerian people. Those who insult Algeria and its people are welcome here. God is watching you and you are as guilty as the people who are making the insults.

Anonymous Posted 2008-04-15

Why are my comments? You only publish comments against Algeria and the Algerian people. You are guilty before God!

gol Posted 2008-04-16

Where there's smoke, there's fire. Indeed, if the Maghreb is not advancing like the Europeans are, then it is because of the Algerian communist regime that is sowing discord in the Maghreb and blocking all initiatives, whether it be the initiative of the Moroccan Sahara or of the opening of the border with Morocco. Meanwhile, the FLN Algerian leaders are paradoxically coming to Tangier to discuss the Arab Maghreb Union while throwing people out to pasture with the terrorists and the GSPC for more than a decade now, acquitting the latter as innocent by referendum and so on.

omega Posted 2008-04-16

A Message to the Moroccans: You are not better than the Algerians and the Algerians are not better than you. There you have it! We are a single people. Remain wise and do not become like those who govern us. No one is better than anyone else. Both of us need to learn something very important, and that is to forgive— forgiveness, wisdom and respect. Thank you

Ahmed Posted 2008-04-16

In Response to Gol: Stop comparing Europe to the Maghreb. Our regime is better than yours. You have legislative election, but never mind them and the parties that win them; it is the king who rules. While speaking about the Europeans— for example Spain, Belgium or Denmark— it is not the king who rules. So, you are far from being Europeans. As for the border, the government made itself clear: it will remain closed. I do not see what interest Algeria has in opening the border. On the one hand, you accuse our country of loving all evils, and on the other you want the border open. You dared to introduce a visa for the Algerians and to accuse the Military Security for having perpetrated the bombing in Marrakesh. Ten years later, your government decided to cancel the visa. Now, you have only to accept your stupidity. As for our FLN, you have to go no further than your press: it was your Prime Minister El Fassi who took the initiative of inviting them over in the aim of having them step in with regards to Bouteflika for the opening of the border, just like it did with the ruling party in Tunisia. Do not forget that your prison is even unable to keep ahold of nine dangerous terrorists who tunneled out like they do in American films. Give me a break. Stop talking about the Maghreb! The Europeans were able to make a union because of their economy. What are we going to get from you? You even have to buy wheat on the international market like we do. Open your eyes! What do you have? You talk about opening up just because of mass tourism. You do not have a choice in this. Leave us in peace. Thank you Magharebia.

REZKI Posted 2008-04-18

So long as we have a handful of illiterate, repugnant, scheming mafiosi-generals governing us, we do not need to expect a united Maghreb to come about one day.

picolo Posted 2008-04-19

Algeria is definitively a case for the psychiatrists! That is for sure! Try to imagine someone else in power, like the young people, who, in their own time, will come to head this country. We will resolve a lot of stuff together, but the dinosaurs of Brezhnev’s time and sputnik are still around.

Abdi Posted 2008-04-19

But, where exactly does this necessity to normalise relations between Morocco and Algeria lie? We have lived for 14 years with this situation not causing anyone comfort. By insisting on normalisation, we are led to wonder if Morocco is not losing face? On the contrary, we should ignore Algeria and preserve good relations with the other countries of the Maghreb.

Anonymous Posted 2008-04-19

In Response to Ahmed: You indeed speak of your bloodthirsty regime being responsible for the death of thousands of innocents!!!??? And, are you going to tell me that you condone the barbarous acts of this same regime??? In your place, I would be ashamed of advancing such things. Is that what Morocco wants to do? You make me laugh. You talk about a power-thirsty, totalitarian regime, which makes horrible decisions on the verge of atrocities, being right in so doing in order to ensure with its grip on the country’s wealth (which has apparently fallen from the heavens)!? You talk about its poor diplomacy paying neither heads nor tails notice to its multiple contradictions!? Is this not the same hateful regime that indoctrinated and continues to torture the Moroccan-Sahrawi people to the point of exhaustion, that created the so-called “RASD”, whose sole aim is simply to harm Morocco? The question is geopolitical, not historic, and, in so being, implicates Cuba and the USSR. Is it not traitorous and hypocritical to use them in this way? Is it not necessary to have an insidious and diabolical ideology to carry out this type of project, which has lasted for over 33 years now? You see, my friend, the King is perhaps not perfect—no one is—but he is not a traitor. He is good and sincere because he is god-fearing. Unlike all other monarchies, this one remains the most humble. Just take a look at the life-style and colossal expenditures of the arrogant European monarchies. His heart is not filled with hatred, you see? This is quite the opposite of the neighbour God gave to us, who is not god-fearing. I would like to tell you one thing: Morocco knows quite well the contradictory and dangerous excesses of Algerian politics. The international community now knows Algeria’s game, and, one day or another, Algeria is going to have to answer for its actions.

جلال Posted 2008-04-23

Jalal from Morocco. I hope the borders won’t be opened because 90% of Moroccans hope that they remain closed except the people who live in the border area. So long live Morocco and Algeria.

meddah Posted 2008-04-24

I am Algerian and I know Morocco and its inhabitants well. These are a servile and nationalistic people. We need to protect ourselves by keeping our border with this country closed and by always maintaining a superior military. We crushed Amgala in 1976. And, we destroyed 5000 of their men from their army’s elite Ohoud company. The Moroccan soldiers know this story well; it was in 1981. We have thousands of prisoners. So, know this: we will never cede a single grain of sand of our territory. And, we will always help our brothers in the Polisario!!! We have never hidden this fact, and if you do not like it, then you know what you have to do! Our country is becoming more prosperous by the day, just like your morbid jealousy. Most Algerians do not want the border opened. And, as for that imbecile who wrote “I am Algerian, racially white, not Arab”, he should know that the Arabs are also racially white, of the Semite sort. Those who have been indoctrinated should shut their traps.

حميد من المغرب Posted 2008-04-25

Which Algeria, which Morocco and which borders do we want to open or close? Algeria is a rich country and its people are one of the poorest nations in the world. Poor Algerian young people, they are enduring poverty and oppression even though the Algerian young people are of the best young people in the world, open, mature, love their country and they have a bright future if the country takes care of this. I am ashamed when I meet Algerian young people here in the Maghreb who want to commit suicide by drowning in the sea to go to Spain. This is unfair, the country produces petrol and its young people commit suicide and its brains immigrate. I have an Algerian friend who has a PhD in chemistry who works here in Morocco. Why doesn’t Algeria provide jobs to these senior graduates? Because it doesn’t want people who teach and coach the Algerian young people, they want them to be illiterate so that it is relieved and maintain things as they are. Long live the Moroccan and Algerian people.

kokito Posted 2008-04-27

Iwant to say som thing abaot are very terybbale and rassistes like amerecan

karimoov-algeria Posted 2008-04-30

Salam alikoum dear Algerian people which have shown honour to Moroccans without boasting. It is true that we are brothers in God, but this was a long time ago when we used to co-operate with each other in different economic and social fields. It was a true brotherhood between the two countries because it didn’t differentiate between Algerians and Moroccans. So what happened exactly? I will reply because I am Algerian and want to explain this to some Moroccan brothers so that they won’t be unfair to a Mujahid nation which loved God and His prophet. It loved its country to the point that it wants to die to preserve the word Algeria, it means brightness in the sky of Africa, Europe, America and Asia. In the era of Ben Bella, the same psychological development found in developing countries, emereged here. A systematic power invaded Algeria in different fields, expanding in its economy and teaching its sons. This was noticed by the whole world, Morocco was one of the first nations to show its envy of Algeria and it began plotting the story of Tindouf and other things. So my question is, why have you Moroccans relinquished your territory which you claimed belongs to you in order to get your independence? We have taught you a lesson in the strength of chivalry and sacrifice so that even half a meter of our country won’t be claimed, and as you know a million and half a million martyrs died for it. My second question is, when you say that you have helped us, why have you betrayed us and begin attacking us only a few years after independent Algeria's constitution? Was that the assistance you wanted to provide on a silver dish? You want us to pen new borders? That is strange, by God. And from the intensity of your jealousy against us, your officials have gone to plot against us. You started exporting drugs to Algeria. But how can an Islamic country produce illegal drugs? Is this reasonable? By God, answer yourselves. Regarding Islam, I think that we love Islam more than you. There is a simple example, up to now there is no co-operation between a country called Algeria and Israel. Secondly, the country or nation which hates Israel the most is Algeria. And you talk about war. Are you conscious about what you say? Which country wants to fight Algeria? By God and without exaggeration, they are mad if they think of that. Go and ask about what Algeria did with the Moroccan casern. Thank you.

عزيز المملكة المغربية العظمى Posted 2008-05-01

Praise be to God. The Moroccan people are open to the whole world. Algeria for it is a mere small village, its rulers are old and aged they bear old ideas, Chakib, Khalil, Belkhadem, Zerhouni and others… they have big projects in Russia and Cuba while their poor people die from thirst and starvation. This is why they don’t want to open borders so that that Algerians won’t be shocked when they see that Moroccan living a better life in terms of food, drinking and welfare. Yes this is the pure reality of Algeria. The whole world is careful of its thieves, even the investors. So my hope is for a young government capable of managing this country so that Algeria and the great Algerian people becomes a country, my respects to all the Algerian people.

زياني محمد صلاح الدين Posted 2008-05-01

I am Algerian. I want the borders of Morocco with Algeria to be opened. I want to visit this nice country. I miss Morocco. Long live Morocco and with the will of God they will open borders.

حميد من المغرب Posted 2008-05-01

May God assist the Moroccan and Algerian people. May God guide the Moroccan kingdom and Algerian Empire to the path of good and taking care of their people. We the Moroccan and Algerians people aspire to a dignified life. We love our countries and love each other. We are the best people of the world. Take care of us and we will make of you the strongest countries in the world. We are people who love work, we have built France and made of it a big country. May God guide you.

glina Posted 2008-05-02

Salam. My family is in Morocco (Guercif), we wish to visit them. But by God, don’t open borders, it brings only trouble. My family is in Sebdou, we see everything, Mercedes and 4x4s filled up with copper, oil and its products and you bring us the poison of Kif which you produce and cocaine which you bring from Spain…I visit my family by plane, or I don’t . To Abderazak, I tell him find an Algerian woman, cheap man, I will give you an advice, Moroccan women are hard, they will make you dance on a stick. Remember this, put it as stamp between your eyes.

حميد من المغرب Posted 2008-05-05

My dear Algerians who describe Moroccans as exporting cannabis to you, no by God, it is your government which wants a doped nation so that it gets rid of you because you are a lazy nation which loves money without making any effort. I agree with you, my Algerian brother, that we in Morocco grow cannabis but don’t smoke it because some big countries fund the farmers to cultivate it in order to make their people drowsy. We the Moroccans are a nation open to the world. My Algerian brothers, ask your government to stop cars carrying petrol from the stations in Maghnia, it can’t do that because it is the owner of a general's project. Anyway, it will take a long time for us to grow conscious of that. Long live the Algerian and Moroccan peoples.

moslim hor Posted 2008-05-09

My Algerian brothers, why do we care about Morocco? They have their borders and it is their right to close them. Moroccans don’t care about us. We the Algerians have become the joke of the world, Arabs and Muslims. Everyone is hating us, especially when we bought the weapons from Russia, they say that we buy weapons with which Mujahids are killed in Chechnya. This is a big shame to us. Let’s look at ourselves, Morocco isn’t as all the Algerians believe, its people are among the nicest people, its kings are the descendants of the Prophet, they have a long history, but where are we from all that…?

algeriano Posted 2008-05-10

To the Moroccan brothers. By God, we the Algerians we don’t care about you whether you go up or down. We don’t care about you. As regards opening borders, when your people stops hating us and describing our officials in your vile way, when your people become like us in their love for their country and understand the meaning of the word citizenship, we will open our arms to you. We are merciless people for those who insult our dear Algeria in Berkane. You talk about the unity of the Maghreb and behind that you plot to the people who loved you once and you exploited its kindness and hospitality and you attacked them from the back, isn’t this a shame, is this the unity, ask yourselves why the borders are closed. Why? This is the cause.

arlid Posted 2008-05-14

I am Algerian, but I oppose the monarchy of hashish and the Algerian regime. The closing of the border is the only good decision they’ve made since Algeria’s independence. However, we should not stop there; we still need to close the border with Libya and Tunisia in order to move forward and open up to Africa and Europe (minus France) and others. This is the only way to grow the Algerian economy and to safeguard ourselves from Moroccan marijuana and the sexual sickos in Morocco by way of tourism. To my knowledge, no Algerian wants to open the border to drug addicts.

سوسو Posted 2008-05-19

I am an Algerian woman. I support on the one hand closing borders with Morocco to boost the Algerian economy. And on the other hand I refuse that Algerians consider Moroccans as enemies because we are brothers and this is confirmed by the historic reality. We the Algerians are in fact quarrelsome and irksome, true, but our hearts are pure and we are too proud. We shouldn’t consider Moroccans as our enemies because they are good people and everywhere you can find good and bad people. My darling is Moroccan by God I take him as he is and he loves Algeria.

Sidi Rached Posted 2008-05-27

Brothers, Friend, Cousin, Amazigh Speaker, Francophones, Moroccans and Algerians: We are all children of the Maghreb, but we must be realistic: it is better to keep the border closed as the causes for the closure have not yet been resolved between the two countries. We do not want to joke around with open the border just to please a minority and cause a war a week later. It is wiser to keep them shut and to fix our economic problems on either side of the border.

boudjanouia Posted 2008-05-28

The messenger of God, peace and prayer upon him, said: “Gabriel kept advising me about the neighbour to the point that I thought he will make him an inheritor”. He also said “If you believe in God and the Day of Judgment, be good to your neighbour”. Algerians and Moroccans are brothers in the true meaning of the words. They are brothers linked by one religion, one geographical area and one language. But the rulers may God guide them have spread the fire of strife among the people by taking the advice of foreigners.

BAROUDI.FR.75 Posted 2008-05-29

Algeria is not free to open its borders: the permission of the Polisario militia leader, the Moroccan Abdelaziz, and then a confirmation from the generals and, after that, the present-day FLN in order not to have a confrontation with the historic FLN. As for my compatriots who talk about the economy and drugs, I advise you to go to the website [removed] and we can discuss more afterwards. Thank you, Magharebia.

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عميرى عبدالحميد Posted 2008-05-29

I am a pure Algerian man, a son of Said Cheikh. The issue of opening the border is something important which concerns us as Algerians but which doesn’t concern you Moroccans. You don’t know love or humanitarianism as you pretend. You love your interests and benefit from them. We aren’t animals as you think. Your channel 2M will talk one day about the people who were driven away from Algeria by the late president, messenger of politics in the third world Houari Boumediene. But your channel forgot to mention the Algerians who were driven away from Morocco in 1963 by Hassan II. This shows your hatred for Algerians and your excessive hypocrisy towards us. We don’t need you and history is witness to your acts from the period of prince Abdelkader up to this day.

عميرى عبدالحميد Posted 2008-05-29

I am replying to some brothers. Why do you want the border to be opened? We, as Algerians, don’t want that. Are you more Algerian than the Algerians? Do you know of more benefits than we do? You are looking for money whose owner is dead, but we are still alive. We don’t want the border to be opened with you. We haven’t forgotten 1963 or 1994. We don’t want to visit Morocco whatever happens. My mother is still in Morocco to this day. What do we gain from the country of wind except storms? No, no we don’t want to open it. This is better. We ask the authorities to tighten controls on the smugglers and traders of death. We don’t want interference in our affairs. You have your religion and we have ours. The people of Mecca are better aware of its roads. We don’t want to build an Arab Maghreb to the detriment of Algerians my brother. Salam alikoum.

samibcn Posted 2008-05-31

You give off the impression that it is you and your opinions that are going to decide if the border is opened. Rather than passing such harmful judgments, I think there other fish to fry.

BAROUDI-75-FR Posted 2008-06-02

I think that it is a shame that Magharebia removes some URL’s and publishes others. The people need to have a little knowledge about the truth! I am going to go to another website where we have more liberty of expression. Ciao

MOURAD Posted 2008-06-03

The politicians did everything they could to get the people to want to be separated. I love a Moroccan from Rabat, but I cannot talk to him at all with the border closed. Open it, please!!!

BAROUDI.FR.75 Posted 2008-06-03

I wanted to do a little propaganda for the Islamists but I couldn't. God is great. See you soon.

ilham Posted 2008-06-04

Mr. Abdelaziz; Open the border, please, please, please! It has been 15 years now since I have seen my family. So, Mr. Abdelaziz, be nice and understanding. I have been begging you for two months now.

selim Posted 2008-06-04

I am an Algerian. I am from Constantine, far from the Moroccan border, yet your comments interest me! Everyone is missing the big picture! You have forgotten what is most important: both sides of the border are poor. Leave politics to the politicians! Help one another! Love one another! Everybody is saying: “These are two brother countries, but they are incapable of coming to an agreement!!!” Personally, I live in France and I love my Arab and Amazigh brothers, no matter what country they are from! If we are not united, then no one will help us! I would so like to see all the Arab countries unite like Europe did, to see us help one another and show the world a new face for the Arabs—show them our differences, our sense of humour, our optimism, our love for our families and for life! The Arab world is culturally very rich. Regardless of our religious differences, we all submit to the same God! My Arab brothers living in these very Arab countries have the right to live in peace with equal rights! It really hurts to see, to hear and to read how the Arab people criticise one another. May love and peace be with you!

Omar Posted 2008-06-05

No disrespect to our brothers in Morocco but today is not a good time to open our borders due to complicated issues that already exist between the two countries. In fact Algeria should do even better by also closing the borders with our Easterly brothers, the Tunisians as they treat the Algerians so appallingly, even though they are benefitting a great deal from the Algerian tourists. One mustn't forget that in the past, both our neighbouring brothers from the East and West chose to accept their independance from the French when the Algerian War was declared. Both Bourguiba and Mohamed V took the easy way out and left the Algerian people struggle by themselves in the hideous war of independance. And when Algeria won its independance by Sweat and Blood, both of them came and tried to sniff around for a piece of Algeria. In fact Morocco even tried to claim Tindouf by force before we could even settle down and catch our breadth. Then in the non too distant past, the Nineties when we struggled with terrorism for a good decade they showed their haste again in snatching all our markets from the Europeans and turned a blind eye to the arm smuggling and terrorists entering our country. Therefore we must learn from our own history with our neighbours that we are better off doing things by ourselves and have nothing to gain by keeping our borders open. Only then we can trade with them mutually, and not one way traffic as it is at the moment.

عميرى عبدالحميد Posted 2008-06-09

I reply to Mr Boujenouiya. In fact, God and the messenger of God, peace and prayer upon him, advised us to be nice to the neighbour but only if the neighbour wishes your good and you too. For example, if we were the neighbours of Israel, as in Palestine, would you love its good and make it inherit you as the prophet said, no, no. The prophet said I would have made the neighbour inherit his neighbour but he was concerned unless the neighbour is a Jew. Your analysis is wrong my brother. Moreover and as our prince Abdelkader said after the betrayal of Moroccans of him in the battle of Isli near the Moroccan city Oujda, take by the right and left, no, hair only grows on the back of the hand but not inside it, do good to the dog but not to the Moroccan. Is this enough to you Boujenouiya. Salam.

عميرى عبدالحميد Posted 2008-06-09

To Abdou the Moroccan. You are lying to yourself. If the Algerian people were repressed, it is not to the same degree of repression you are subject to by the Moroccan regime or to the point of humiliation depriving you of the freedom of expression. You don’t even have the right to speak in the face of policeman. As regards oil and generals, my brother, they are Algerians, it is better that they are eaten by the Algerians than by the Jews who are in your laps and eat your resources. Regarding illicit drugs, you know that 99% of the Moroccan people are addicted to drugs, we know Moroccans well in this field. You are envying us for the bounties granted by God to us including oil, gas, gold, iron, copper, uranium and the vast territory. All this shows that God is satisfied with us and we are thankful of His graces.

Fassi Posted 2008-06-10

عميرى عبدالحمي it seems algerians like yourself are full of hatred for Moroccans?! One moment you quote hadith and principles of Islam then the next moment you insult Moroccans who are Muslims?! Shame on you!

محمد حليم Posted 2008-06-10

I think that opening borders will bring the two nations, the Moroccan and the Algerian, closer. We are one nation, one people. Let’s forget the past and aspire to the future.

Omar Posted 2008-06-13

I have a fantastic vision, the Maghreb should only be made up of two countries, Algeria and Libya, as they both share simillar political ideologies, had simillar struggles with the occupiers, the French and the Italian Faschistes and fought dearly for their independance. As a result, they have both been blessed by God with great land areas full of resource and great wealth and this is for the sacrifices they made and the chaste blood of their Martyrs, God bless them. Moreover, both Algeria and Libya are steadfast against the Zionists and have no ties with the atrocious regime of Israel, unlike our other neighbours Tunisia, Morocco and Mauritania, who hold secret talks with them and make them feel very welcome at home. Not only they never cease to lick the boots of the Europeans colonisers and their friends the Zionists, they oppress their people and treat them with contempt, use them as cheap labour for the foreign exploiters and govern them with fear and no one is allowed to complain or criticise the regime. Algeria and Libya speak out against the oppression of the Palestinian people and comdemn other unjustices in the world like the Iraki invasion and this is not the case from our other Neighbours. So in a nutshell the "Ideal Maghreb" should be the fusion of Algeria and Libya and no one else, which would be a real force to be reckoned with in many aspects, economically, politically, militarilly and geo-strategically. So common Gaddafi and Bouteflika, lets unite. The rest "Eat your hearts out"!!!

بشرى Posted 2008-06-15

Algeria will not, no, no, no open the border. Morocco is a real enemy to Algeria. Morocco wants to smuggle illicit drugs. I ask Mr Abdelaziz Bouteflika not to open the border to the enemy.

boras Posted 2008-06-16

To Omar, stop deluding yourself with 70's Socialist Revolutionary propaganda. If you haven't realized already Socialism which Algeria and Libya so dearly loved and deployed as the states operative mechanism has failed miserably. Let's replace your deluded warped view of history which has pushed your aggressive expansionist Maghreb ideals to fantasy where it belongs and instead put your head down son and work for your country like a decent law abiding citizen should.

عبدالقادر شقرون Posted 2008-06-20

As much as I was happy with the high standard of discussion for some people, I was saddened for some excesses by other people. But, praise be to God, there are just a few in the last category. I have viewpoint about the issue of opening borders. I honestly think, even if I am Algerian from the town of Tlemcen, that Morocco made a serious mistake. The beginning was with the attacks of Marrakech 1994 when it accused Algeria and Algerian intelligence services that they were the cause of that. But afterwards, Moroccan brothers uncovered that Algeria had nothing to do with that whether directly or indirectly. I personally work in the media sector. If I have discovered that my country was the cause of that I would have criticized it seriously. It is certain that we have faithfully been saddened by that event. This is how it all began. Morocco imposed the entry visa on the Algerians at a time when the least that can be said of Algeria is that it was experiencing hard times. Why not and Algeria was witnessing at the time the beginning of the savage terrorism which has disturbed our lives and killed innocents. We found ourselves fighting alone. If the Algerian people haven’t joined together the president Zeroual and then the president Bouteflika through the programme of the national reconciliation, there would have been a catastrophe. I would like to remind my brothers in Morocco that we have felt during that period a big disappointment. Instead of receiving the compassion of Morocco to Algeria to fight this transborder plight, the private and public