Maghreb bloggers react to the bombings in Algiers
2007-12-14
Maghreb bloggers discuss the terrorist attacks in Algiers.
 [Getty Images] One blogger wrote, "the media is failing to educate people of the extent of the danger." |
The recent terrorist attacks in Algeria have dominated the Maghreb blogosphere in recent days. "Terrorism persists ... Mr Bouteflika," wrote Adel, "Algeria is not yet free of terrorism as you say in your speeches; here is the proof."
"Once again we are hit in our flesh," blogged Anaisdaly. "Once again we are plunged into uncertainty, and once again we unanimously condemn the attacks." Asking what would follow the attacks, the blogger noted that a paralysis "has taken hold of us, like a rampaging, pestilential and sordid beast."
In a discussion of photos of the aftermath posted by Mon journal a moi on dzblog.com, Atika expressed fear of the "Iraqisation" of Algeria. "We must act. We must involve ourselves actively in the struggle against the monsters!"
In the same discussion, Slimane T. asked the government to instruct imams to dedicate their Friday sermons to the fight against terrorism. "We must talk of nothing else; otherwise people will return to their old habits. Mosques have to fight the sleepiness of people, against their greed and selfishness."
The media was also blamed for not playing a more active role. Commenting on Malika's blog post, "Algiers I think of you! I am thinking about you all", Amri, an Algerian expat living in Tunisia wrote, "the media is failing to educate people of the extent of the danger".
The media should investigate "the source of this illness, of those who shelter the terrorists and give them resources." People should know, Amri added, that those killing children receive "religious teaching without guidance…and are marginalised".
Chawki Amari from Les Chroniques argued that the "death has not ended and 11, the evil number, becomes a day to avoid". The blogger expressed belief that by targeting the "UN, the world's federal bureau and the local Supreme court," the terrorist group demonstrated their affiliations to the Algerian president, and that "the adversaries of the third mandate … gave their opinion."
"Hitting the Constitutional Council headquarters, cradle of law and the constitution…brings us straight to the debate over Bouteflika's third mandate," agreed Mounir Boudjema, also from Les Chroniques.
The message, continued the blogger, was sent "to foreigners, who gave approval to the return of security and dissipated the fears over coming to Algeria. By targeting the UN, terrorism attacks the symbol of the international community". The blogger suggested it might be time to change strategy. "National Reconciliation [is not] a miracle solution to our misfortune."
"Do not talk politics while corpses are still smouldering," begged Farah Maamar. "The time is for mourning. Silence, please."
"The youngsters who died were your age and the child who caused this carnage is from your generation," she continued. "When they are not throwing themselves in the ocean to go somewhere else, they blow themselves to pieces. This is a very sad story of youth… and we are all responsible. But we will talk about it later."
A request for silence was also sent from Tunis. In her post, "Keep silent, we are killing," Tunisian blogger Nadia asked the Maghreb to play its role and "not play blind. Let us all be Algerians tonight," concluded the blogger.
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miloudciel012 Posted 2007-12-19
I am an Algerian and I am proud to allow myself to say just one thing, and I hope that the directors of Quatarite and al-Jazeera will read what I am going to write. I tell you, heads of al-Jazeera, that you are carrying on the language of al-Qaeda. Your mask has fallen off and it is unfortunate. Long live Algeria! Long live the nobles of the world!
Anonymous Posted 2007-12-20
Terrorism has different forms. It may be intellectual or physical. It has occurred in Algeria, but it may occur in the other five, not six, countries of the Arab Maghreb. Whoever says so is encouraging terrorism and the appearance of terrorist parasites. Terrorism has no history or roots. We are one people.
ياسينن Posted 2007-12-21
No, we won't be compromising, we won’t speak, we won’t even write, it is death coming from the West. As a free Algerian, I won’t be reluctant to support Islam and Muslims, save my country and the sons of my country from the claws of the Khawarej and hypocrites. I won’t hesitate for a second to give vote to my spiritual father Mr Abdelaziz Bouteflika who brought out Algeria, at least, from the tunnel of ignorance, this achievement which didn’t please the conspirators against Algeria and the entire Arab Maghreb. Beware miserable, by God, you’ve not experienced what we experienced, and beware of tumult. Salam alaikoum.
أبو شاطر Posted 2007-12-26
Salam alaikoum. A question which always crosses my mind, why does Al Qaeda target everywhere in the world except Israel? Isn't this a confirmation that the organization is a product and plan of the Mossad and with the implementation of the idiots of the Islamic nation???
khaled Posted 2007-12-27
Mr. Bouteflika, you were elected with 80 per cent support and terrorism still exists. You need to take some initiative and fire the General Director of the Police as well as certain ministers like the Minister of Agriculture, the former mujahideen, of Communication and of Health because they are truly inefficient. They were not made to be Ministers. You need to call upon the young people who have been marginalised but who are still ready to render their services to the country. I personally know that some of my old schoolmates who are now in the United States, Japan and Britain who, after having gone to do their graduate studies abroad, returned here only to find that from the time the single party system began intellectuals have not been welcome into position of any real weight. Thus, Algeria has fallen in mediocrity. And, the door was left open to Ali Belhadj and his consorts such that they do not respect the opinions of others but, rather, in order to foist their own personal ideas of Islam on them: “If you are not of my opinion, then I will kill you.” They are assassins and they will remain assassins. People need to denounce terrorism wherever it is. We must not remain indifferent just because we do not worry about the loss of a close parent or friend. The terrorists need to be told they are cowards and assassins. Al Jazeera is the spokesman for the Al Qaeda and Ben Laden. And, this time around it was only the Algerian media that denounced the behaviour of those in charge of Al-Jazeera; certain media networks in the Maghreb did not want to offend their colleagues there. Imagine if their country had been a hit!? (Which I do not wish.) So, do not talk about a Union. Thank you to the Tunisian whom Magharebia cited above for saying “Let us all be Algeria!” Let us all be of the Maghreb. Thank you and long live Magharebia!
جزائري Posted 2008-01-02
A question which is always intriguing me, I hope to find a satisfactory answer which will cool the burn of my heart on my beloved country Algeria which will always be in my heart and I won't hesitate to protect it. Why don't we see similar attacks in countries other than Algeria??? If we except Iraq and Afghanistan given that they're occupied countries? A reply please.
acharif moulay abdellah bouskraoui Posted 2008-01-03
Acharif Moulay Abdellah is making a call out to the Algerians to unify their strength against terrorism and against the terrorists. These cowards only know how to destroy. I would also like the Algerian people to know that without solidarity and without the full co-operation of the people with the security agencies, no state will be able to stand against this scourge. Take Morocco for example, where all the people stand against these criminal terrorists. May God protect our country from all misfortune. Amen.
souadtamer Posted 2008-01-06
I personally don't describe these as terrorism, terrorism is everywhere in all countries of the world.
كريم الشاوي Posted 2008-01-06
All the problem lies in the policy followed by the president Abdelaziz Bouteflika. Relying on the relics of the Algerian revolution, quasi-men, because all men have died in seven years of the revolutions. Therefore, the quasi-men have to submit the flag, there’s a generation who have martyr blood running in them. The blood of Ben Mhidi and Ben Boulaid may God rest their souls and receive them in His wide paradise. It’s not the admirers of revolution and power who sadden me, it’s the death of national spirit with martyrs. Thanks to every Muslim person jealous for his country because we Muslims share one nation, it’s the flag of there’s no other God but Allah and Mohamed is the messenger of God, peace and prayer on him.
dziria Posted 2008-01-06
“We will eradicate terrorism and Algerians will live decently under the government’s politics”… There will always be Algerians who are going to lie themselves into Hell. We must not forget the real cause of terrorism! It is the state’s bullying that is pushing young people to destruction. So, let us stop polemicising and face reality. All Algerians need to take to the streets and stay there until this government and the generals backing it leave the country. They need to leave or this will continue.
nacer boudjemaa Posted 2008-01-08
The policy of reconciliation advocated by Bouteflika is the cause of this resurgence in violence. This was a total failure, Mr. President. I think that under these conditions a third term would be suicide for my country. So, please Mr. President, return to your home and leave Algeria and its children. So that I can be sure to avoid chaos in my country for them, please leave.
مزيون أحمد Posted 2008-01-09
They call Al Qaeda for the support of Islam, does Islam stipulate killing innocents, chidlren and elderly people? So fear God in yourselves subjects of God, and review yourselves before you are judged.
MANABIL Posted 2008-01-10
When we think about foreign countries that claim to be democratic—and I think that they are—the congresses are beginning to reduce the number of presidential terms. But, here, the politicos, our specialists in whitewashing, want to give a third term to a myopic president who has already run his course. The policy he charged us with will be a real disaster for our future generations. The reconciliation he advocates only reflects his desire to remain at the head of this welfare state which favours representatives and leaders. But, as for the people, he abuses them with his diet of misfortune. This reconciliation, as it has been advocated, has much more to give to the terrorists than the people. Yesterday’s murderers are taken into consideration more than any one else in our daily lives. Do not bother watching his televised speeches; they are just propaganda. His verbosity is a just another kind denial that we do not want to hear at all. So, Mr. President, you have thoroughly failed: terrorism is still here and it affects us even more strongly than before. Go home and forget your historical legitimacy, so that the ruling parties no longer brandish Islamic versions of it.
لينا Posted 2008-01-10
I’m an Algerian woman and I’m proud of my beloved country. I say to Aljazeera that its awful act contributes to reinforcing the ranks of terrorism and expanding destruction and chaos in Algeria. This is what I don’t accept.
algerien1277 Posted 2008-01-11
In spite of these bombings, I still think terrorism is waning. Nothing is easier than to blow yourself up like a coward in the midst of your brothers. Yes, I said it, and I will say it again: Terrorism is no longer as strong as it once was. But, the problem is one of pure socio-economics. We need to fight against poverty. That is the only solution. Let the young people work and, in so doing, express themselves. And, to Bouteflika I say “Thank you for everything”, but “No!”, “No!” and “No!” to a third term. It is time for you to take a rest!!!
طالب Posted 2008-01-14
I hope that the Arab nation will be united after it has gone down in front of and even before the humiliation of the West. As to the issue of terrorism, it's a topic on which scholars have made their Fatwas. It's forbidden to get out and abidance to the Sultan is necessary whether he’s faithful or unfaithful. These acts are the work of the Khaouarej. In response Israel is retaliating against us Algerians. It has stirred terrorism in our country and made the world believe that it’s al-Qaeda. We ask God to guide those who were misled and ignore who is behind these schemes.
LOIFI Posted 2008-01-14
By God Algeria and its great and sacred people won’t die. We say one word to terrorism, France with its power and greatness couldn’t subjugate Algerians. So what about the dirty relics from their mountains homes? May God curse them. Long live Algeria and long live its great people.
شكري من الجزائر Posted 2008-01-15
Algeria is Ok. You criminals will be on the Day of Judgment the fuel of hell. Jesuits and Jews don’t commit such horrible acts. Our Islamic religion taught us how to treat affectionately animals, so what of man. No reconciliation with you, your medicine is hell.
Jamal Posted 2008-01-15
Dear brothers and sisters, My name is Jamal, I live in the Netherlands( Pays-Bas) and originated from the North of Morocco (Rif). I want to wich you, my Algerian brothers and sisters good judgement and faith, and my condolescence to the family of the victims of these wrong attacks. Morocco is a smaller country than Algeria and has had a different kolonial history. The only thing that divide us is the kolonial history, besides this we are almost the same( Maghrebbians). I can understand your reaction concerning Al-Jazeera rapportage of the attacks. Is the problem of Algeria just socio-economic, no work etc.? Because that is what I understood from the media. These extremist ( people) were so unsatisfied with the government that they see this as the only way out to make a statement. Sometimes I hear that Algeria is governed by generals who are very corrupt and profit from the chaos in Algeria to justify their rule. I also get the idea these generals are profiting in creating a division between Morocco and Algeria. I can tell you one thing the problem between us is not the people but the leaders. Can somebody tell me more, I hope I didn`t offend you by saying this. Don`t get me wrong Morocco has also similar problems. Maybe it`s to early to work together in the Maghreb( Maghreb Union) , maybe the countries should take care of internal problems first? But I think we should begin in working together as Magherbbians, working together abroad. We should be unified in Europe and start demanding for these things NO to terrorism No to corruption NO to military build up in Maghreb No to cultural discrimination of Imazighen Yes to Unity in the Maghreb! Together we can change this faster as beeing of both coutries and unified. I believe!
منير من الجزائر Posted 2008-01-17
If the messenger, peace on him, were living, he would have disowned your Arabism. You’re the monsters who have no religion and no human origin. The Algerian wakes up every day to look for a living, which is very hard, and he finds a trap you’ve made for your brothers. If you were men, go to liberated Palestine which has been occupied since 1947. you have caused unemployment after burning factories. You have frightened away foreign tourists with whom hotels and restaurants used to make profit and even the beauty of the Sahara which took a holiday until further notice. The president has granted you all chances to give in; but you have continued your betrayal to the Algerian people. Oh Lord put them in hell eternally. Oh Lord, put them in the lowest ranks. Finally, I hope that Mr Abdelaziz Bouteflika, the president of the republic, take hold on you just like children trap birds in nets, then take them in a helicopter to throw them one after the other in the Atlantic ocean for voracious whales.
rourou Posted 2008-01-19
Salam alaikoum. I’m Algerian and I’m happy to share opinions with you. The first thing I start with is that our president Abdelaziz Bouteflika has no blame. The blame is that of the people: we are a very silent nation. We see injustice with our eyes and we keep quiet. If we have a living national spirit and true conviction of belonging to dear Algeria, like our ancestors who were martyrs, men of science, great men and leaders, this wouldn’t have been our situation. Have mercy on us children, and have mercy on us young men, have mercy on us mothers, have mercy on us the oppressed on the land of free people to those who have the keys of decision, to those who have even an atom of love for God and nation. This call was written by a young girl who is barely 12 and who is suffering for the situation of her nation and family.
AEK ( blida) Posted 2008-01-21
Our generals like fishing in troubled waters.
شاكر من الجزائر Posted 2008-01-21
The respectable president Abdelaziz Bouteflika has tried to stop the fire of tumult through reconciliation. But Mr president, they tried to attack you. So how is it possible that you continue with the vampires sucking the innocent Algerian blood. You have worked with the dear president Houari Boumediene, was there chaos and continuous attacks then such as those we see now? Algerians kill Algerians every day. We the people are weak, we ask retaliation from these sick people. Read what the young girl aged 12 said. Long live Algeria, down with its enemies internally and externally.
حمدي ميموز من الجزائر Posted 2008-01-23
Algeria won’t bow to you enemies of my nation. Ask the oldest men: has France done the barbarism you have? You have killed babies, children, raped women and the daughters of men and slaughtered cattle. By God, who are you, you who pretend to be the righteous. You have brought disgrace to all learned classes abroad when they hear that you are Algerian. You have brought us global shame. We are a nation which never knew these phenomena in the seventies, we used to hear and feel sorry for the Italian mafia. But since 1990, you have brought calamities, God says ‘We have honoured the sons of Adam’. So does your religion say the opposite of this? The Algerian people are responsible for these national pains when every time they vote without reading the texts. When we modified the constitution for party plurality, they all said yes. We were enjoying a happy life under a one party regime, the FLN, even if I don’t belong to it. I humbly bow to the victims of Ben Aknoune, they will be inchallah in the rank of martyrs. What we tell the rulers of this nation is that we the people want security and stability. If you laugh at or don’t like my words, you should know that we’re all prone to attacks. And a singer says ‘every dog has its day." Long live Algeria. Victory and triumph to our faithful martyrs.
AEK-BLIDA Posted 2008-01-24
Bravo Dziria! There are some women who are more intelligent than men!
davidou Posted 2008-01-26
Pluralism without Censorship! Our Algerian Generals are heroes. They never conspired to kill their brothers. They have not sold off Algeria. May God bless them! Bouteflika will have his third term and he is right to do so. Why? Look at the 12,000 Moroccans who left for Spain. Why? They left for justice! You were right, Bouteflika: Fatiha Mejjati is the Moroccan head of terrorism, the black widow. Morocco is swarming with terrorists, both active and dormant. The 1994 bombing of Rabat, Marrakech, the 11 March 2004 bombing in Spain, and 9/11 in the States. The prisons in Morocco are full of terrorists, despite the atrocious repression of the population. You are hiding the truth, but one day or another it will come out, just like Ephraim Halevy’s book. It is in incredible to realise what the Moroccan leaders are hatching with all the backstabbing they are doing against Algerians. It is frightening.
Anonymous Posted 2008-01-28
Algeria is the State of pride and dignity, no one, whatever his rank, can take a decision or predict the fate of Algeria about who will rule it because God grants government to those He wants and takes government from those He wants. So stop your complaints (people of Islam) and direct your criticism and anger towards those who fight religion including Jews and crusaders, the enemies of Islam.
Anonymous Posted 2008-01-28
For example, Dziria is more intelligent than Davidou, whether a beneficiary of the system or simply idiotic...
دادي Posted 2008-01-28
This terrorist act doesn't go up to the level of a comment.
REDOUANE-ALGER Posted 2008-01-30
Mr. Davidou- It is a serious mistake to confuse the real mujaheddins such as Mr. Ait Ahmed and Ben Bella and others who died—may God have mercy upon their souls—with the current generals who served the French army up until 1962. I don't blame you - you must either be young or they must have taught you this so as to stay in power, benefiting from a mistaken historic legitimacy. If they were real mujaheddins we would not be where we are today. It is an insult to our valiant combatants to compare them with these assassins. FURTHERMORE, without them we would be A LOT BETTER OFF and far more respectable.
Hervé Posted 2008-01-30
To the people in charge at Magharebia: It is true that you are committing censorship. At the given time, you website is full of articles talking about Algeria, but these are only about terrorism. Is this country a burning bloodbath? Since the beginning of the year you have completely turned a blind eye to Algeria’s economy and finances. This is unfortunate and I am ashamed of you. Instead of helping this country, you are trying to destroy it. Why have some of your articles have been up for more than a month?... because they concern Algeria, that’s why! I love this country. Six out of ten French people have a link to this country of wonderful people. Indeed, who do you work for? I have read everything you write, so tell me who exactly do you work for?
davidou Posted 2008-01-30
Why? You want me to walk at your pace and say amen.. animmou (animal). You are the one benefiting from the weakness of your compatriots! Look around you: you will see the horrible phenomenon that is swallowing you up! Deal with it and shut up.
lalafatima Posted 2008-01-31
You are also very intelligent… intelligent animals, that is. Just like Aljazeera of Rabat, not everyone can benefit from the system like you can. Case in point: you insult the forum writers as idiots, but the idiot is really you. You stand on your soap box saying "Salamalek” to everyone, like a robot. You need to call upon Riyadh to cleanse your heart for 20 dirhams.
REDOUANE-ALGER Posted 2008-02-01
Long live the freedom of expression! Thank you Magharebia for giving us your website, and if certain people displeased with it, then all they have to do is go take a look at the satellite channels like El Hiwar, where the people in charge are either almost all Algerians or Algerian interlocutors. Mr. Hervé, I think you need to get used to this and start criticising yourself. Look around: this regime is doomed to failure. Despite our oil, all we are doing is sinking deeper into our misery. Our children are committing suicide by crossing the sea and blowing themselves up and killing other Algerians with them. So where are we headed with all of this?
IDIROU-ORAN Posted 2008-02-01
Here we have to examples of Algerians who do not admit to the truth because they feel implicated and are confirming their involvement in the system. This is not true, Sheikh Lala Fait and Cheb Davidou. It is not nice to insult the Moroccans because they are not to blame for our problems. I myself would dare say that you are Polisario agents, and if this is the case, then go back where you came from. Since the time Algeria has known the likes of you we have had nothing but misfortune and no thanks to you our borders are closed.
YOBA_56 Posted 2008-02-01
I say to those who accuse Al Jazeera of terrorism that they are marketing the words of the Algerian regime gratis. I advise you not to take any trouble in doing so hahaha. I hate Al Jazeera yes because it spread the Arab thought in the Maghreb. But I don’t agree with you when you criticize Al Jazzera just for infuriating the Algerian generals’ regime when it has inaugurated for the first time a second headquarters in Morocco and you know that Algeria is jealous of Morocco even for poultry hahahaha.
hydra Posted 2008-02-03
Long live long live long live Algeria
mana abdel kader Posted 2008-02-03
Shameful this wrong
Anonymous Posted 2008-02-03
There is only one Algerian who can make France get out of its country, but such is not the case with you and the Spanish; they are still on Moroccan territory, e.g. Melilla, Ceuta and the Persil Islands. Indeed, nine policemen died for nothing!!! IDIROU ORAN, you are hiding behind an Algerian penname. According to your accusations, the border was closed because of the bombings in 1994. And, these bombings were definitely perpetrated by Moroccan suicide-bombers, so why are you accusing Algeria!!!??? So, you need to give us some reasons first of all. IRIDOU, you can continue with your song and dance until the day the border is opened again (if it ever is). And, let’s not have any censorship, Magharebia! Let us have a bit of deontology here. And, freedom of expression, my poor Redouan: what? You want the forum writers to walk with their heads bowed down like yours? Or, is it that you just want to stroke the forum mediator with all your “Hello’s” after having insulted Hervé. Oh, what courage! You are best labeled a chameleon! So, goodnight! And, for Malawi, the “radicals” should open an embassy because currently there are 94 countries that recognise the Sahrawi state.
LALAMAKHZANIA Posted 2008-02-04
Come on Magharebia! No censorship, please! It is no good; Morocco already has a bad enough image with regards to the freedom of speech. If Magharebia bows to censorship, then it is just another failure resulting from the ‘Years of Lead’. For Idira-Oran to Rabat there is just one Algerian people... who regained their goods and their land from French colonialism just like they should have. On the other hand, try to do the same with the Spanish. This is not an insult to the Moroccans, just precise facts that you do not want to admit. Quite the opposite: the Polisario is a nation. It is finished; the carrots are cooked. Malawi has even opened diplomatic relations with the Polisario!!! There are also the Swedes and the Australians who broke their contract with Morocco for phosphates because they are coming from a country other than Morocco; the deposits are Sahrawi so the contract is null and void. The borders will remain closed so long as it is necessary and 1994 will remain the first reason for them being so. And we are going to put up a $1.5 billion barricade like the one on the Mexican border just to rid ourselves of these parasites. You have not understood anything; you live on the border just so you can go back with all your illegal goods, but, in time, Algerians will be coming to Morocco loaded with cash. –Later Let us have some pluralism and freedom to make posts, Magharebia!
Idirou oran Posted 2008-02-05
Mr. X has confirmed his membership in the ranks of the Polisario. And, I myself affirm to you that I am Algerian. I live in Oran, or, more precisely, Sidi Houari near the fishery. I will also have you know that my cousin was killed in 1975 because of you and his aunt did not even get to see him in his coffin since—supposedly—he died in an accident. It is tragic. If this were actually for Algeria, it would not be the same thing. Let us hope that our president follows through with his word and that no more Algerians are going to die for others. There are a lot of other problems that I am not going to mention here, but when you go back to bathhouse, try to leave Es Senia clean next time. And, do not insult the Algerians, no matter what your opinion is. I hear a support committee for Morocco spoken of, and I guarantee that I will be the first to join it, as well as my friends, assistants and professors at the university in Oran and the telecommunications institute. The positions you hold at our universities and campuses need to be held by our compatriots. A word to the wise…
BOUCHRA Posted 2008-02-05
Thank you... again.. Thank you... to the team at Magharebia! I have noticed a dramatic improvement in the impartiality of your forum mediator. Bravo! What we wish is for our brother Moroccans is to have a free and democratic monarchy and stop with this underhanded and humiliating prop. This is the most important problem causing millions of people abroad, especially the Algerians, to see their brothers and sisters in such a state of total submission. The Monarchy has its place and the people have theirs, and everything will get better. If the King were to send out a petition to legalise the abolition of his birthright, it would be magnificent! Good luck!
chebkhaloudi Posted 2008-02-05
Hats way off to Mohammed VI for having shut down Aljazeera’s satellite radio station. This is a great first step towards Algeria; we have already completely gotten rid of one of our stains. Bravo! It was a big mistake to let this station set up in Morocco. You should apologise for all of the criminals against and assassins of babies, women, journalists and their likes. All of Algeria’s elites are against their neighbouring brother country. This is honestly one big step towards peace and openness. I am delighted!
zizou Posted 2008-02-06
This terrorism is a virus and all Algerians need to fight it to its death. Long live Algeria! She will always be on top.
gol Posted 2008-02-06
Certain Algerians say they are shocked at Morocco’s hand-kissing, because they do not understand that hand-kissing is a gesture of respect in Moroccan culture, not one of submission or whatever else. But, this is understandable given they are not shocked at having had their throats slit for over a decade by those bearded men, because Algeria—we must remember—is a country with no culture, just as Bouteflika explained when he said France committed cultural genocide.
Jamal zi Hollanda Posted 2008-02-06
@ Idirou oran, Anonymous I am really convinced that you are payed to put your anti-Moroccan propaganda at this site that is to bring the Maghreb people together. I am convinced by the lack of your argumantation and by your reasoning that you are somehow affiliated in breaking the thin relations between Moroccans and Algerians. You make me really angry and I hope that the REAL Algerians will stand up one day and take big steps away of this propaganda of yours. I thought really good about what I have read here from the anti-Moroccans. First they accuse the admin of not beeing honest in publisinh and than the put the biggest rubbisch of histrorical reasoning on this site. What obvious are you. My conclusion is that you profit some how by the powers of the corrupt Algerian generals.. Me on the other hand live in Holland and am a volunteer in a foundation that helps poor people. And I can proove it! I care a lot about my Algerian brothers and sisters just for the fact we are brothers!! and that is enough No one can seperate brothers I hope Algerian students will stand up !!
colonellotfi Posted 2008-02-06
You should thank Algeria night and day for having given you your citizenship. There are a lot of saboteurs of your likes, spitting in other peoples’ soups. From 1962 to 1976 350,000 Moroccans had Algerian citizenship, while Hassan II had 22,000 Algerians forcibly removed from their land. History speaks for itself. And, you also know of El Hamri, all the black-market workers are over there. I hope that the young king will not make the same mistakes as his father did, e.g Algeria, the Sahara, the Years of Lead, Sarfaty, Ben Barka, the Oufkir family and so on. Help your brother Moroccans: they deserve it, and Algeria is with them. Since his accession to the throne, there has been a lot of change that has nothing to do with past leadership. Long live our young King, Mohammed VI! And, may eternal peace be upon his illustrious grandfather, Mohammed V! May he rest in peace and may God take him amongst his saints of the wisest Muslims, as he was always on the side of the Algerians.
DJAMILA Posted 2008-02-07
Out, Polisario! Long live Morocco!
adlane Posted 2008-02-08
Salaam Moroccans! You are jealous of Algeria!... and the Algerians in general. You rejoice when you hear that there were bombings in Algeria. After you get done with drugs—Morocco is the number one cannabis-producer in the world—you even export explosives over the border. But, your turn will come, don’t you worry. Algerians will never be hand-kissers. Algerians are warriors born to be free, just like the Sahrawi people your King has always persecuted. Long live Algeria! Long live the Free Western Sahara! -An Algerian
latifa-marseille Posted 2008-02-08
There are some Algerians who have a chronic hatred for Morocco. Here in France, Algerians and their neighbours are like brothers. It makes us sorry to see our brothers insult each other and tear each other apart. Take Europeans as an example, they fought against each other for decades, leaving millions dead, and now there is no bitterness and there are no borders. So, be nice and love one another and wisen up, please.
colonellotfi Posted 2008-02-08
Peace and the Lord’s grace will brings a lot of things to light, including the truths. On the other hand, I am sceptical if an individual such as yourself, Gol, is really Moroccan. The “throat slitting and the genocide Algeria is dishing out via heinous people we all know, i.e. the leaders and their apparatchiks” that you make claim to with a vampire’s pleasure… these are bloodthirsty assassins who have killed innocents (even in Morocco) being punished here. They have sowed carnage in spite of the fierceness of the Moroccan police. You must enjoy the ordeals and atrocities that these assassins have committed in Algeria! But, we enjoy it more because—Hello!—95 per cent of them are going over the border with the help of evildoers. An “abject culture of submission”; I think NOT! I hope You little head is empty even of the slightest matter. Algeria was colonised under and iron fist. Any time a house was found with an Arab book in it, it was burned and its occupants we made to disappear. Bugeaud committed the biggest genocide Algeria has ever known: he deliberately burnt immense plots of forest just in order to better keep watch over and control Algeria’s knowledge base. There you have it: the culture of your dear France. On the other hand, Morocco, similar to Tunisia, as for France’s protection. The latter installed a king and now it is has been left to regret its demand (for example: Mohammed VI, for God’s sake!). Moroccans are able and permitted to practice their religion and language in complete freedom, while Algeria has become like a French department, and not just a simple protectorate. And, the difference was that the latter took the courage of two hands. What about freeing Ceuta, Melila—both parts of the Sahara—the Persil Islands and the Canary Islands? Okay, so there you have it. If you are really a Moroccan—and I truly doubt this—don’t go insulting anyone, especially the Algerians. -Respects to all our Moroccan brothers.
Anonymous Posted 2008-02-08
If you knew how much was in those banks and in his family’s hands, you would be ashamed to identify yourself with him, if only because you would be a thief like him!
Redouane Posted 2008-02-08
We would really like to know the website or some other contact information for the new, foreign Algerian political party RACHAD, which has the respectable Mr. Med Larbi Zitout as one of it leaders, because we are really interested in joining.
boucha mokrane Posted 2008-02-09
Let us be a bit more reserved, Mr. Adlane. Dear Sirs at Magharebia, From time to time censorship is good, as in when stopping incendiary comments between the people of the Maghreb. Europeans are uniting while we are destroying ourselves. Enough already! Thank you
sihem Posted 2008-02-09
Adlane, You pretend to be an Algerian, but the truth is that my aunt is a Moroccan and we love Moroccans. It is clear to us that you are trying to get us to hate and rise up against one another. So, no more insults and anecdotes!
sami Posted 2008-02-09
Listen Gol, You, who talk about culture, can you define for me what cultural is? You are some kind of imbecile if you think all the countries of the Arab Maghreb have the same culture! Is kissing the King’s hand culture? (Not to mention, he moved his hand so it could not be kissed. Haha!) I have never seen a people who kiss the hand of their king. You certainly do not have a culture. You are ignorant: there are some Moroccans who are real men, but there are lot of Moroccans like you. And, instead of saying “God protect you”, they were assassinated by the integrationists. You speak of genocide, does that mean that you are content with what is going on in Algeria? You have a black heart. You surely would like to leave in a calloco boat to go to Spain. And, there you want to tell them that you are a good person. It is a shame for you that you do not know the real value of an Algerian. You have let yourself talk about culture and you have really made me laugh in so doing. People like you give out your opinion here, but I do not think you can see any further than the end of your nose.
mourad Posted 2008-02-10
Adlane, you should be ashamed. I do not know what we should be jealous of: there are hand-kissers here and boot-lickers where you are.
renard Posted 2008-02-10
Believe it or not. Terrorism in Algeria is in no way related to the ideology of al-Qaeda. It is just a continuation of frustration in people's hearts as a result of the acts perpetuated by the officials of this honourable country, including crimes, humiliation, obliteration of the humanity of the poor and miserable, stepping on their dignity. I don’t mean the respectable President Bouteflika, he does what he can, but others like the prosecutor of the republic in the court of Jelfa and his followers who left no other choice to young people except bearing arms, blowing themselves up, involvement in the spin of violence and bloodshed.
kada Posted 2008-02-13
I thank Renard for the comment. He put his hand on the wound of all Algerians namely young people.
احمد Posted 2008-02-13
Stop the lies.
Jamal zi Hollanda Posted 2008-02-16
Salaam Aleikum, Azul, First, I really think some people here on this site are paid to put information on this site to separate Moroccans and Algerians. Who are you? Second I really think there are more things that have to change in Algeria than in Morocco. Look at the unemployment, Algeria with all it`s petroleum has much more unemployment. The military coup that is in power also is spending to much money on military build up. This is forcing Morocco to do the same to have a balance in the Maghreb. I really believe that the generals in power in Algeria want a conflict with Morocco and don`t mind an internal conflict also to legitamate there rule. So the big problem in the Maghreb is the Algerian generals, not the hand kissing of te Moroccan king, this is a argumant that you use to dismiss the real diskussion and avoiding attention to the real core problem. I swear to God ( Wallah ) I love my Algerian brothers and sisters as much as the Moroccans, you know why, because I know we are the same and that the Moroccan leaders in the past wanted to unify the counry by creating nationalism. Algeria never passed this period I think Morocco is more forward with this issue. ok Morocco has also problems like Algeria, let us not be held against each other by fake nationalism, let us try to help one another. Life is to short let us work together and not leave coutries of hate for our childeren. Let us leave lands of brothership open borders, more democracy and cultural diversity. Sometimes I dream of travelling to Algeria, Tunesië, Libia from the coast of the Riff in Morocco by car. I hope I can do this once. Go and pray in the mosk of Algiers, visit the University, and just drink a cup of tea and have small talks with by brothers in Algeria. This is my stupid dream!!!
عبدالمالك Posted 2008-02-22
Salam alaikoum. Brothers of conviction, the emergence of such problems in Algeria is associated primarily with colonization, which made us in a high backwardness. This caused the rise of the covetousness of mafia groups which want to plunder and rule, as is the case now.
Anonymous Posted 2008-02-25
Salaam alaikoum. What I want to say has been burning in my breast for a long time and it is disturbing me. It is "no" to a third mandate for Bouteflika, "no" to authoritarian rule and "no" to dictatorship. We want a change.
مولاي الطاهر Posted 2008-02-25
Mr President Abdelaziz Bouteflika, ten years of rule are enough for you… Leave the presidential throne to another man. Thank you.
slim Posted 2008-02-26
To Mr. Bouteflika: Honestly, your policy is worthless. Algerians voted for your government so that it could work for them, not against them. Your ministers are worthless. Currently Algeria is living in a very dangerous social crisis. Your government exterminated the middle-class. All the high-up officials and their entourages are benefiting from this with crates full of dinars and foreign currency. Who is it that is benefiting for the bread monopolies!? *Sir, it is time to rectify this, and not at the international level but at the ministerial level.* The war on corruption is backsliding; we need competent security and military forces and intelligence services. We are knocking the wind out of our small- and medium-sized businesses, but not out of illicit privatisation and not out of corporations that profit foreigners, because we import whatever we can. Sir, it is the third millennium, our youth are lost and Algerian schools are lost. Where is the time of President Boumedienne? I hope, with all my respects to Mr. President, that I have touched upon on the real issues of present-day Algeria.
tiha Posted 2008-02-29
Mr. Mokrane; With regards to the misplaced comments (not the censorship), I completely agree with what you are saying. Instead of the people of the Maghreb and Arabs in general uniting in order to be stronger, more developed, more advanced and better instructed, they continue to fight for reasons no one knows, for reasons that are unfortunately leading us to nothing.
jaime Posted 2008-03-02
dear ladies/lords, the maghreb union are a paradise in north africa but unfortunately this will become never real,as long as the military marxists the power these people it slightly never more see, look: algeria is the richest country but the people is the poorest! why? where have all remained those billion dollars of oil and nature gauze? therefore these people maghreb will leave people never with rest. jaime
farouk Posted 2008-03-06
It is unfortunate that the Arabs will never change. We are going to consume and kill each other off one by one. Rather than unite and get the people out of this famine and this hatred eating away your hearts, you talk about Algerian, Moroccan, Tunisian and Libyan wars. We are all from the same region of the globe and it is the healthiest and cleanest in the world. God willing, we people of the Maghreb will unite.
farouk Posted 2008-03-06
“Forget Algeria”!? You idiots. Lift your heads up, you hand-kissers! We are the bosses of the entire Maghreb. We took our independence by force. We sent the OAS and the Jews back where they came from so we could live men’s lives, like our dear late president Haouri Boumedienne. We are brave like our ancestors Bouaama and Amir Abdelkader and Ali la Pointe. We do not like refedenes...
جمال Posted 2008-03-10
This man who took out Algeria with the help of God firstly and his great love to this nation, he is Abdelaziz. We should, as Algerians, cooperate with all our means to protect this Muslim nation with the help of God. Finally I greet you Mr president.
jaime Posted 2008-03-11
me does not let laugh instead of crying, houari boumedienne were no good people, he is assassin he has thousands of moroccans and algerians maltreated and assassinated, he hatred between broeders moroccans has sown and algerians, he was no well example for maghreb union, maghreb has people no hatred sows necessary.
نذير من الجزائر Posted 2008-03-13
By God, I wonder when will this Al Jazeera channel stop attacking the Algerians, both government and people? There is no more doubt that this channel works for dirty foreign hands after it has deemed the blood of the Algerian people permissible through the poll it made on its satanic site in addition to the partial policy it adopts towards the issue of Western Sahara and its attempt to widen the conflict between Morocco and Algeria on the media level. From here I call the Algerian people in particular and the Arab in general to boycott this criminal channel because it doesn’t serve our Arab issues as it pretends but it was set up to serve the Israeli agenda…Thank you.
رمضا ن Posted 2008-03-19
In the name of God, most gracious, most merciful. God Almighty said “When you go to war... investigate”. These chaotic attacks have no religious foundation. I ask God Almighty to thwart the acts of these evildoers because they are the worst creatures on earth. oh God, destroy them and their descendants, oh Lord rescue us from their evil and the evil of anyone who acts like them.
argaz Posted 2008-03-25
Hi Everyone, First of all, I think it is the Algerian political regime that rose to power after the death of our beloved Boumedienne that prepared the breeding ground for terrorism in Algeria. These regimes are disconnected from the people and have abandoned Algeria to homelessness and other ills like illegal immigration, unemployment, systematic corruption, the repression of peaceful marches by the CRS gorillas and some afflictions such as prostitution, theft, banditry on the highways, brain-drain and so on. Thus, the cause of this slump is due quite simply to the men who led and continue to govern us. They think only about stuffing their own pockets as well as those of their friends and parents. The majority of Algerian ministers have dual-nationality, one foot being in Algeria and the other in a foreign bank account. I am not an obedient Islamist, but I do think that these people have suffered through everything because of them. They are not even intelligent. -Bye all
argaz Posted 2008-03-30
Hi, Dear peoples of the Maghreb, stopped squabbling amongst yourselves. Love one other. Do not follow the example of our leaders who are dividing our peoples in order to reign as masters over us. So long as these scavengers govern us, there will be no agreement between us. I think it is up to our leaders to bring our peoples together and not to create divisions among us. Moreover, the Algerian regime has succeeded in its task here in Algeria. It has mounted us against each other—the Berbers versus the Arabs, the French against the Arabs, the Northerners against the Southerners and East against West. It has been this way since our country’s independence. So, be intelligent and do not follow their Machiavellian plan. The peoples of the Maghreb have loved one another since the beginning of time. Bye
محمد ابن عبد الله Posted 2008-04-06
It has been predestined for them many years even before God created this universe, this life is but a scenario, and that who keep quiet about the truth is a mute Satan. We ask God Almighty, the Lord of the great throne, by His secrets that only He can see see and by the secrets of Surat Al Fatiha, to make the truth right triumph against the will of the hypocrites and infidels who sold this religion for one dinar, and substituted the rule of God by the rule of infidelity. They will be rewarded according to their intentions.
Abdellah Posted 2008-05-11
This is a sincerely friendly message to all the men, women, young people and children of the Maghreb and at the same time a brotherly invitation to reflect and meditate upon a true quest for knowledge and appreciation for a better mutual understanding—both Maghrebi and international in form—in light of a better perception of the surrounding world which seems so complex and yet at the same time fortunately completely discernable. If we arm ourselves first with a rationality cleansed of all subjectivity and countervailings accumulated through centuries of being undeveloped and decide to live in the light of the first precept of our religion—Iqraa |recitation|--and if we engage ourselves in living in the light of the true “fairness of this divine earth” (as in the Iqraa), then we will discover a new wonderful world. So, before joining our life to the afterlife, which, with faith, we will see, Iqraa must be our guide in this quest for truth in science and religion, distancing us from illiteracy, clichés, charlatanism, and other forms of obscurantism and, more especially, false debates. Personally, I think that the major problems of the people of the Maghreb do not exist with the exception of those that are artificial, prefabricated and concocted both internally and, more especially, externally such that they deprive millions of individuals from living freely in the vast space of our common Maghreb. Affectionately, your brother, Abdellah
أمينة Posted 2008-05-13
Salam alikoum I would like to say a prayer and I ask God that it reaches the beloved Abdelaziz Bouteflika. Oh Lord take my life instead of his. I, on behalf of my province and country, we sacrifice ourselves for the beloved dear one whom we love with all our feelings Abdelaziz Bouteflika the man. We hope that no one will interfere between us and dear Morocco. We are one country, one nation, long live our Maghreb Union. We aren’t concerned about politics. I will vote for Abdelaziz Bouteflika, this is the first time I have an electoral card and my first vote will be for the powerful and militant man Abdelaziz Bouteflika. I swear that it is a sincere feeling.
abou -zaitoun Posted 2008-05-13
A Muslim educated in accordance to the moral teachings of the Qur'an behaves towards everyone else with the love Islam requires of him. He shows respect for every idea and appreciates art and aesthetics. He is peaceful in all situations; he calms tensions and restores friendships. In societies composed of individuals of this type, the civilisation is more developed and the elderly are nobler. Joy, happiness, justice, security, abundance and blessings are more present than they are in the most modern places in the world today. You think that the terrorists are Muslims? Why would they kill innocents and children, who are angels? This all proves that the moral education that Islam offers to humanity is one that brings peace, happiness and justice to the world. The barbarism taking place in the world today under the name of “Islamic terrorism” is completely separated from the moral values of the Quran. These are the doings of ignoramuses, fanatics and criminals who have nothing to do with the religion.
scherifi Posted 2008-06-14
“Colonel Lotfi” Hello from Oujda! It seems to me that Al Akid Lotfi lived and studied for some time in Oujda!!! Are you his parent? In any case, Colonel Lotfi knows (and knew) perfectly well the situation of the Algerians living in East Morocco!!! What surprises me is the affirmation of the expropriation of Algerians’ goods in 1975!!! (“22,000 thousand Algerians had their goods expropriated by Hassan II. Thousands of Algerians who were born in Morocco were lynched in Morocco in 1975”) I can confirm with certainty that no action of this type was carried out against our brothers. Sincerely, Y
scherifi Posted 2008-06-19
Hello again Colonel Lotfi, I have encountered several facets of the problem with expropriation, theft and so on of Algerian goods in Morocco. This is a very important subject to debate, especially in Oujda and the surrounding region. In the mean time, can you cite me a single concrete case of this expropriation? As I await your response, I would like to thank you. I hope to hear from you as soon as possible. Sincerely
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